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dave
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
 June 08, 2009
05:50 AM Post #6657434
| There are a total of 394 votes:
| Dave's Garden of course!
(316 votes, 80%) |  |
| My county extension office.
(8 votes, 2%) | |
| Friends and relatives give me the best advice. (Why?)
(12 votes, 3%) | |
| Garden magazines and books. (Which ones?)
(35 votes, 8%) | |
| None of the above (What is your source?)
(23 votes, 5%) | |
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Previous Polls |
onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6a)
June 08, 2009
05:56 AM Post #6657441
| early bird again!!!... there is only one answer!! |
schickenlady
Newport, NH
(Zone 5a)
June 08, 2009
06:06 AM Post #6657451
| I am behind you!!! |
cue_chik
Palm Coast, FL
(Zone 9a)
June 08, 2009
06:09 AM Post #6657456
| This is the only place I know of (unlike magazines and other websites) where i can get actual feedback from gardeners who are growing or have grown the same particular plants. The information I have acquired here on DG is invaluable! |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
June 08, 2009
07:11 AM Post #6657548
| Dave's supplies me with LOTS of great info, but recently I have started working at the Botanical Gardens here and there is a group of very knowledgeable people there, so I voted 'other'. |
CapeCodGardener
Mid-Cape, MA
(Zone 7a)
June 08, 2009
07:50 AM Post #6657652
| Discovering Dave's Garden two years ago as a newly relocated gardener into a whole different part of the country has been invaluable. I do use all the other sources, but DG is my first resort! And the "Beginning" forums are so helpful for newbies like me. |
Hemophobic
Kannapolis, NC
June 08, 2009
07:59 AM Post #6657682
| Love, love, love DG!! It's been like a college education in horticulture and I've made great friends to boot. What more can I say? |
jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)
June 08, 2009
08:05 AM Post #6657704
| My knowledge began with my Grandmother, then magazines(Southern Living & Garden Gate) & books(Dan Gill's series & A-Z Encyclopedia of Garden Plants), then Victory Garden & HGTV(until there was no G in it), then I became a MG and work at Burden Plantation and the Botanical Gardens. But surpassing all that when I found DG!!!!! I have never had anything like it in my life and am an active member here now. The info I have gathered is invaluable in my garden but the friendship and new family I found was an extra bonus!!!! HOORAY for Dave's!!!!!!!!!! |
Rusty56
Jasper Co., MO
(Zone 6a)
June 08, 2009
09:06 AM Post #6657909
| I have all the AHS books is easy to know and how to take care of it...
Magazines sources is Better Home and Garden, and some others vintage garden books... |
carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)
June 08, 2009
09:11 AM Post #6657927
| The great thing about Dave's, I think, is the contrasting opinions. In a book or a magazine or even a course, you have one person or source who is the "expert" explaining the "correct" way to do something. Here, we are all collectively empowered as experts about what we know. Even if all I know is that my impatiens did better in the shade than in the sun, to someone who is wondering about a colorful annual for a shady spot, I am an expert. In fact, for the purposes of this poll, I am an expert about what sources of garden info I use ... which btw include other online sources. Always, of course, cross-referenced against DG.
This message was edited Jun 8, 2009 9:12 AM |
Tallulah_B
(Susan) Calgary, AB
(Zone 3b)
June 08, 2009
09:56 AM Post #6658111
| DG OF COURSE!!
When I moved to Calgary (almost desert!) I figured I could get away with the same gardening as when I lived in Winnipeg! no, no, no! Even though they are the same zone 3 (3a), the chinook winds are killers on tender plants!
I get invaluable info on plant ID as well as care & feeding! Who knew that ordinary wood chips would take the nitrogen out of soil and therefore one of the nutrients needed desperately by plants? Only by talking to a DG'er would I have found this out, AND gotten a Calgary Hort membership!
Thank you, Dave!!! :-)
-Susan- |
sallyg
Anne Arundel Co., MD
(Zone 7a)
June 08, 2009
09:58 AM Post #6658122
| I have books but more and more I like to go online, and for garden facts and opinions I start with DG, and usually end here too. It beats the books for a variety of new and old plant material and for pictures of plants, landscaping, etc. |
scutler
Charleston, SC
(Zone 8b)
June 08, 2009
10:04 AM Post #6658152
| DG is not only my #1 source of gardening information, it is my #1 source of information on a whole range of topics. It seems like lately any time I have a problem, I think DG. It doesn't matter if it involves my car, my house, animals, you name it, with such a vast and diverse audience, there is bound to be someone on DG who knows the answer. It is quite incredible really. |
randbponder
Hornick, IA
(Zone 4b)
June 08, 2009
10:31 AM Post #6658276
| Not quite true but I put none of the above. That is only because, I have been gardening long before I knew of DG. However Dave's is a great source of information. I also do learn new things on DG. and I enjoy my many new friends on DG and " talking over the fence, so to speak". |
tucsonjill
Tucson, AZ
(Zone 9a)
June 08, 2009
11:58 AM Post #6658775
| Down here in a "non-traditional" gardening environment, you can't beat DG for advice that works in our specific local conditions. What a relief to find advice and information from local gardeners who understand the local challenges! |
imapigeon
Gilroy (Sunset Z14), CA
(Zone 9a)
June 08, 2009
12:17 PM Post #6658873
| I voted "none of the above" because I use multiple sources. DG is a heavy favorite, but I also use Sunset Western Garden book because it's specific to CA. I've learned not to plant anything until I look it up in both sources. Now if I could just learn not to BUY anything before I research it thoroughly, I'd save myself a lot of money...LOL! |
passiflora07
Chuluota, FL
(Zone 9b)
June 08, 2009
03:04 PM Post #6659639
| I heart DG
:)
This message was edited Jun 8, 2009 3:05 PM |
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
June 08, 2009
04:09 PM Post #6659895
| We're Number One YA! We're Number One YA! A little over a year ago when I joined I would never have thought I would vote DG due to our geographical and climatic diversity. However, I have found many, many folks with similar challenges to share with and many who also do the same dances of joy. So (all together now) We're Number One YA! We're Number One YA! |
synda
Carrollton, OH
(Zone 6a)
June 08, 2009
04:12 PM Post #6659907
| I have learned Sooooooooooo very much since I've been on here!!!!!!! There is alway someone or a Plantfile that is a big help.I do wish the Plantfiles gave a little more details but,someday...LOL. 
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dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
June 08, 2009
04:18 PM Post #6659927
| The best source is multiple sources. No one source has all the information I have needed. A more complete picture results from considering several.
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dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
June 08, 2009
04:26 PM Post #6659953
| dparsons I agree with you but I interpreted it as 'best source overall' not 'the be all and end all source'. Come on, you can do it. You know you wanna vote 'We're Number One YA'!  |
synda
Carrollton, OH
(Zone 6a)
June 08, 2009
04:36 PM Post #6660001
| Even if Dave's doesn't have all the info needed,it can direct me in the right direction,even if it to google...it has let me know that there are plants out there that I never knew existed and that I can grow them.Plus I have met and come to care every much for so many people I would never had know in this lifetime.So I have to say Dave's has broadened my knowledge,WANTS,heart and soul. 
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dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
June 08, 2009
04:43 PM Post #6660036
| LoL, dahlianut. Just by asking the question on DG, you know what answer they are going to get (of course!). DG is certainly a great source. I would still stick to getting better information by having more than one source and want to encourage others to do that too. Its helped me to even know when a piece of info on DG is wrong :O and that a particular plant really will grow in zone 7. I guess I'm just weird this way ... |
Debsroots
Northwest, MO
(Zone 5a)
June 08, 2009
07:20 PM Post #6660713
| I have stopped several magazine subscriptions as I get so much good information from Dave's Garden. When I have a question, I just go to Dave's and find the answer or ask the question and before long the answer arrives.
It's the first thing I read each morning.
Debbie |
irisMA
South Hamilton, MA
June 08, 2009
07:24 PM Post #6660730
| Specializing in bearded irises, print sources have been most helpful. I have met other gardening nuts on DG & find the comradship as helpful as the information. |
tabasco
Cincinnati (Anderson, OH
(Zone 6a)
June 08, 2009
08:56 PM Post #6661092
|
Yes, of course, it's DG!! I log on to DG first when I need to know something. If it's not on there, they will tell me where to find it.
I was just talking with another DG gardener at the ORV round-up last Saturday about how supremely useful it was to have all the folks on DG as instant Gardening 'Mentors'!
Whenever you have a question you can run inside and post it on the right forum and get lots of expert advice instantly. Or do a search in the middle of the night for an esoteric question and have the info right at hand. Very very useful site.
Books are fine, but the information in them is often outdated even before the books are printed and they are expensive, to boot.
And I think magazine writers cop a lot of the posts and ideas from DG for their columns and articles.
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roybird
Santa Fe, NM
June 08, 2009
11:12 PM Post #6661807
| I put Dave's Garden, of course! I also love my Rodale books and one particular local nursery owner. I also base a lot on personal observation. |
mamajack
Fate, TX
(Zone 8a)
June 09, 2009
12:31 AM Post #6662102
| carrielamont...i like it too that there are diverse opinions on daves. i like it that folks don't agree all the time. keeps me coming back. |
palmbob
Tarzana, CA
(Zone 9b)
 June 09, 2009
12:58 AM Post #6662163
| friends are best advice as most of the plants I really care about are either not on Davesgarden, or I put them there, and I am not good at giving myself advice of any kind (and if I were, I wouldn't listen anyway). |
blomma
Casper, WY
(Zone 4a)
June 09, 2009
03:32 AM Post #6662309
| When I started gardening in the 70's, I read all the books from my library I could get my hands on. Started growing annuals, graduated to perennials and from there to seeding my own.
I guess you can say I learned from reading and personal experience from years of gardening. I also owned and operated a commercial greenhouse during the 80's and that taught me a lot about plants and the business of growing.
Learned some things on Daves also, regarding specific plants I was not too familiar with. No one ever stops learning no matter how long you garden. I am still learning and will until my life is ended. |
cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)
June 09, 2009
06:33 AM Post #6662468
| Whatever happened to the answer "all of the above"?
Actually when I first started "serious" gardening about 6 years ago I went with our Plant Doctor Melinda Meyers...started watching gardening shows, then buying magazines that wound up being subscribed to, I found Dave's Garden in a magazine then I went to the Master Gardeners classes. I guess you can see when it comes to something of interest I hit most avenues. The longer I garden the more I realize there is something to learn most everyday and so I continue with the gardening shows, going where Ms Meyers is where ever she is, keeping my subscriptions and checking the county extension where ever I get a chance. |
torriesmom
New York, NY
(Zone 6b)
June 09, 2009
08:12 AM Post #6662686
| I was totally clueless about certain plants before joining DG. Now if I can't find the few photos I need for my epi's, I sometimes go to yahoo epi groups. DG is my favorite source though. |
CricketsGarden
Nauvoo, AL
(Zone 7a)
June 09, 2009
08:15 AM Post #6662699
| All of the above, mostly books , then Daves Garden.
There is no One Best source for gardening advice.
This message was edited Jun 9, 2009 7:17 AM |
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)
June 09, 2009
09:09 AM Post #6662871
| I use a combination of sources. I use the communities to discuss things the plant files to look up different plants. I use my books for reference on things I can't find here as well as magazines for ideas and inspiration. I am always inspired by the member's gardens and enjoy the discussions about what works for some and not for others. |
trackinsand
mid central, FL
(Zone 9a)
June 09, 2009
12:51 PM Post #6663904
| i learned most of what i know from books. for this area, Southern Living Garden Book has been my number one source of knowledge but i answered DG because without PF, the ID Forum and a couple of other key forums, i couldn't have put to use the info i gleaned from books. nothing beats good pictures and good advice from people who have experience with the plant. |
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
June 09, 2009
02:09 PM Post #6664233
| Too funny palmbob |
mellielong
Lutz, FL
(Zone 9b)
June 09, 2009
07:06 PM Post #6665359
| I joined DG because of the plant files - I get so much good info from them! And like others have mentioned, you can't beat DG for being able to connect with others who share your own geographical concerns. How many times have I explained that "full sun" means something different in Florida, LOL? Also, as a regular on the Butterfly forum, the other members have been so helpful when it comes to rearing caterpillars. I get a lot of info from books, but there are so many things books claim as a rule and then other members will tell me how they've bent those rules time and time again. Now that I've been raising butterflies for two years, I'm able to give advice to newbies. I love teaching others all about host plants and my cute little caterpillars!
Melanie |
azrobin
Scottsdale, AZ
(Zone 9b)
June 09, 2009
09:55 PM Post #6666278
| You should be QUITE proud, Dave. I don't know what I'd do without DG. I have dozens of books but even after referring to them, DG is where I always find the answer that makes sense for my region, my problem, my questions.
The countless resources, advice both near and far, your articles, videos and all that you provide here is priceless to us gardeners. Your Admin and UBER staff are outstanding. "I once was lost, but now I'm found...as a REAL gardener thanks to DG!" Thank you, Dave.
Oh and Bob...I totally relate to your remark! :-)
~Robin
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gessiegail
Taft, TX
(Zone 9a)
June 09, 2009
11:39 PM Post #6666918
| I have been introduced to plants I had never even thought of growing until I joined DG. Not only have I met lifetime friends but everyday I can't get started without a 'dose' of DG. Although I rarely go to the plant files, there are so many knowledgeable people on each forum who are ready to help answer questions.
In Dave's short life, he has accomplished building a phenomenal gardening site which will continue to grow. Kudos are in order for sure to all the staff...and Dave himself! |
skaz421
Wesley Chapel, FL
(Zone 9a)
June 10, 2009
10:21 AM Post #6668094
| It was a toss-up between DG and my Bible, "The Southern Living Garden Book".
They're both fantastic!!! |
figaro52
Oak Lawn, IL
(Zone 5a)
June 10, 2009
02:09 PM Post #6669181
| This is the only place for REAL information from REAL gardeners! |
Sofonisba
Putnam County, NY
(Zone 6a)
June 10, 2009
03:45 PM Post #6669503
| Dave's Garden serves most of my gardening questions! |
Nan
SW, WI
(Zone 4b)
June 10, 2009
03:59 PM Post #6669546
| Well, DG is great, I admit, but MY *best* source(s) for having information right at my fingertips, is a combination of Books, Internet, and DG.
DG is still a 'work in progress', and doesn't always have complete information that pertains to me and my needs, but combined information obtained from all 3 sources is usually complete.
On the other hand...if I specifically *post* a question, it's usually answered pretty thoroughly here on DG...depends on the forum, though, as some are slower than others.
So...I chose 'none of the above', in this case.(Ü) |
figaro52
Oak Lawn, IL
(Zone 5a)
June 10, 2009
04:57 PM Post #6669761
| Once I found DG I gave up on books -- they're usually outdated; DG is always current and up-to-the-minute. Oh, need I mention all the wonderful gardening vendors I've discovered through DG (most of them word-of-mouth via the forums)!?! And then, there's the Garden Watchdog! I'm now able to order top-notch nursery stock and gardening supplies thanks to DG! Books and magazines can't hold a candle... (IMHO). (BTW, I know of a seemingly excellent gardening magazine that promotes inferior mail order nurseries.) |
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)
June 10, 2009
05:06 PM Post #6669789
| DG |
Kylaluaz
Weed, CA
(Zone 7b)
June 10, 2009
08:53 PM Post #6670790
| Oh, the plants themselves are the main teachers, but DG runs a close second these days.
Dparsons, you make me grin, and Dahlianut, you do too.
*grinning* |
kathymac
Citrus Heights, CA
(Zone 9b)
June 10, 2009
10:59 PM Post #6671440
| I chose DG! There is so much info here, that between the communities and the plant files, I usually find what I'm looking for. I really enjoy looking at pictures that other members post of their gardens, and it gives me ideas for my own container garden. Before DG, my favorite resource was my Sunset Western Garden Book, but the edition I have is about 10 years old now, and so of course, it doesn't have the newest cultivars.
And Dahlianut, you're too funny! But I do love your enthusiasm! I'm with you all the way! ☺ |
pajonica
Tone-machi
Japan
(Zone 9a)
June 11, 2009
12:08 AM Post #6671719
| Since joining this wonderful community last year I have grown to love it more and more. In fact the only thing I love more is gardening, oops, sorry I meant to say wife! Everyone is so friendly and willing to share their knowledge. |
Katye
Sammamish, WA
(Zone 7b)
June 11, 2009
01:57 AM Post #6672038
| I chose other - I prefer researching a variety of sources to make an informed decision. I also like more extensive information which is why I research.
I have been growing plants for 35 years, so much of what I know preceded the internet. I do appreciate the rapid availability of info, whether it is from DG or another site. |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
June 11, 2009
03:18 AM Post #6672098
| Glad to give you a smile Kyla. :) |
rosethyme
Denton, TX
(Zone 7b)
June 11, 2009
11:18 AM Post #6673163
| If I'm in a hurry and want to know about a certain plant or even a nursery, I just Google the name and add "+ Dave's"...brings the link right up. |
mamajack
Fate, TX
(Zone 8a)
June 11, 2009
06:16 PM Post #6674973
| rosethyme that is a great idea that i never thought of. |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
June 11, 2009
06:21 PM Post #6674996
| I do that sometimes too rosethyme. I've not found things I know are there with Dave's search capabilities, so I googled them with a "Dave's" added. |
seemama
Kissimmee, FL
(Zone 9b)
June 11, 2009
06:29 PM Post #6675023
| If your not used to living in this country, then DG is the place to get all the local info and help from other members of the local forum, the Central Florida chit chat has the most amazing members. All of whom are extremely knowledgable and helpful. |
Samigal
(Pegi) Norwalk, CA
(Zone 10b)
June 11, 2009
08:02 PM Post #6675382
| I've got so many gardening books, but when it comes to questions about certain plants I can depend on DG members to help me out. Since I became a subscriber a little over a year ago I've learned so much about just everything. And, I might add, such wonderful helpful members they are. |
Tallulah_B
(Susan) Calgary, AB
(Zone 3b)
June 12, 2009
12:27 AM Post #6676664
| Dahlianut - "We're #1 YAY, We're #1 YAY!!!" I'm with U, girl!!! :-)
Rosethyme!! what a wonderful idea! When I've googled something floral or
plant-ish, I usually end up with a Dave's site, anyway, but it's good to know I can google PROPERLY with Dave's in the question lol
-Susan- |
LostIndian
Algonac, MI
June 12, 2009
03:03 AM Post #6676897
| Too many publications to name! I read something everyday about gardening and I normally file what I actually use. |
WillowWasp
Jones Creek, TX
(Zone 9a)
June 12, 2009
04:02 PM Post #6678919
| Really that is an unfair question and there should have been one more choice. All of the above, I use every source available to me and rely heavly on books and magazines. Dave's is the best source around as far as looking up stuff quick and having the rapour between other people but I love to have my books to look at and thumb through.. Seed catalogs are books to and I include them in my resources. I love Texas Gardening Magazine and so many of the others, my county extension agents can't be beat for all the stuff in our area, and the experience of my friends and family go a long way as well so as you see we should have had another choice.
But Dave's still rocks...lol
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DesertPirate
Fallbrook, CA
(Zone 10b)
June 12, 2009
06:20 PM Post #6679449
| I certainly use all the sources you listed. But my first stop when I have problems with ID , disease, insects and the like is DG. If I don't get a ready answer from any of the half million here, there's always someone happy to direct me to a correct answer. Best investment I've ever made in my garden was the member fee here. |
woofie
Chewelah, WA
(Zone 5a)
June 12, 2009
06:21 PM Post #6679459
| When I have a question, the very first place I go is to DG; and if I can't find the answer on DG itself, I can usually find a link to a site that will provide the answer...so...DAVE'S IS NUMBER ONE!!!!! Yeah, yeah, I use Google too, but my first choice is Dave's. THANKS, Dave!! And Thanks to all the great people who help make DG what it is! |
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
June 12, 2009
09:52 PM Post #6680380
| We're Number One Ya! Just thought I'd say that again in case the overload of votes for DG blew up the the pole. It could happen! I'm very familar with blowing up alot of things sigh. |
Tallulah_B
(Susan) Calgary, AB
(Zone 3b)
June 13, 2009
12:20 AM Post #6680962
| You were right before, and you're right now, Dahlianut!
We're #1 Yay!!
Dahlianut - you sure know how to call 'em!! :-) |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
June 13, 2009
01:31 AM Post #6681156
| So you use explosives at voting locations dahlianut? |
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
June 13, 2009
10:31 AM Post #6681950
| Not yet (LOL) Dave but sometimes my experiments go awry and things blow up. |
Tallulah_B
(Susan) Calgary, AB
(Zone 3b)
June 13, 2009
02:22 PM Post #6682683
| o my - you're an explosive lady, Les!!
btw - the dahlias you gave me are starting to bloom :-) Pretty yellow is the first one, and I see other yellow ones coming. The red & white one will come next I hope.
Yellow is such a cheery colour & red/white is sooooooo pretty & vibrant. Thank you, thank you!!
-Susan- |
Aguane
Phoenix, AZ
June 13, 2009
11:18 PM Post #6684519
| Dave's Garden is the best source. Living in the desert of the southwest where even a small mountain can make a difference in your very tight local and growing conditions, having access to local DGer's expertise is a huge plus.
AND another plus is "Other Members in your area" telling us where fellow DGer's are living... same microclimate, etc? We can use them as a resource to educate us on common garden experiences. |
pajonica
Tone-machi
Japan
(Zone 9a)
June 14, 2009
12:34 AM Post #6684734
| Dave's is # one but it needs more international membership to make this a truly global site. Many of the things we like to grow in our gardens are not native to the US, there is I'm sure a wealth of untapped knowledge out there that can only serve to make this site even better! |
mamajack
Fate, TX
(Zone 8a)
June 14, 2009
02:25 AM Post #6684916
| dahlianut i have gone as long as i can. what do you blow up and when do you do it? one never knows when one might need a resource person. are you a pyrotechnic? |
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
June 14, 2009
09:48 AM Post #6685477
| LOL mamajack I sometimes accidently blow up things because something seems like a good idea at the time... I dropped a coffee bean in the gas jet thingy in the stove and left it there cuz I thought it would melt. It didn't (oops) ... I thought that combining CLR and bleach would eat the lime scale better but it just made toxic fumes (oops)... I thought that running the shower to make steam would increase the humidity throughout the house but it just made it rain in the hall (oops). I guess these aren't 'explosions' per se but they do make my DH explosive. |
woofie
Chewelah, WA
(Zone 5a)
June 14, 2009
11:45 AM Post #6685933
| CLR and BLEACH?!!!! Gad, woman, you got a death wish?!!! EEEEK, don't DO that, we want to keep you around! :-) |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
June 14, 2009
12:30 PM Post #6686085
| Acids and bases, dahlianut, are not to be mixed. The stronger the worser. They react quickly (explosive) and produce chemicals that may be toxic. Buffers (weakly acidic or basic) are OK. Lime makes a fine basic buffer, and some acids will disolve it which is what CLR does. CLR is a mixture of several acids and some other stuff.
Of course, if you want to create a toxic explosion ... ;) |
mamajack
Fate, TX
(Zone 8a)
June 14, 2009
01:05 PM Post #6686233
| well then turns out that dparsons is my resource person. lol. |
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
June 14, 2009
10:24 PM Post #6688157
| Yupper mamajack you should never, ever listen to me when I'm in rocket scientist mode. Many an experiment has met with disaster sigh. |
bevoreno
Reno, NV
June 15, 2009
01:57 AM Post #6688874
| Pound for pound I believe Dave's is the best thing going. No need for $70 per hour plant doctors, its all right here. Folks just waiting to help, no pop-ups, no BS, just straight answers. I also really appreciate the fact that its one small fee per year and nothing more. No additional costs for upgrades or any of that. What an awesome place- I truly feel like I'm amonst many helpful people whenever I'm here. Thank you THANK YOU!! |
