Posted by Dea (from Frederick, MD) on October 6, 2007 at 9:45 AM:That's amazing! What a great article and tell Mr. Hilton thanks for all the information.
I can't imagine what it would be like to see them in Costa Rica - maybe someday :)
Dea
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Posted by tommyr2006 (from Poughkeepsie, NY) on October 6, 2007 at 10:08 AM:
They also love Bee balm! I got my first Hummer feeders this year. I'll add that the go poo a LOT and seem to fire it out! LOL! Fun little wonders!
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Posted by jadajoy (from Newport News, VA) on October 6, 2007 at 2:26 PM:
I was surprised that I am already growing some of the plants they love like Bee Balm ,Trumpet Creeper and Mimosa. I dont remember ever seeing one of these but one day something large and fast like a dragonfly flew by my head and surprised me, now I'm wondering if that was a hummer.....ummm. Will be on the lookout :-).
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on October 6, 2007 at 2:34 PM:
I really enjoyed this article, and thanks for the link, too! Question: How late should we keep our feeders out? Is it time to bring them in now?
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Posted by tommyr2006 (from Poughkeepsie, NY) on October 6, 2007 at 3:50 PM:
Well they seem to be gone here in N.Y. so I took mine all down.
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Posted by tabasco (from Cincinnati (Anderson, OH) on October 6, 2007 at 5:13 PM:
Great HB article with lots of (new) interesting info!
Interestingly, I just received an e-mail this week announcing an HB winter banding project for the OH, KY and IN area. Here is the link:
[HYPERLINK@www.tolford.com]
All in the area who have hummingbirds visiting their gardens or who see an unusual HB this winter are welcome to participate and report.
And Mr. Tolford gives suggestions on how to keep your nectar from freezing, which was my first thought, btw!
(And also, if anyone is interested in learning or posting more about gardening for hummingbirds and sharing their observations, DG has a wonderful permanent forum and we would love some new posters!...)
[HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on October 6, 2007 at 6:00 PM:
Thanks, Judy! Hummers in winter?? Oh, my--perhaps we should knit little coats, hats and scarves for them! So I should clean and refill the feeder again? I'll check out that link.
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Posted by JaxFlaGardener (from Jacksonville, FL) on October 6, 2007 at 10:12 PM:
Great article! I found that I was not disciplined enough to keep a hummingbird feeder cleaned and filled, and I didn't want to take the chance on making them sick with stale nectar, so I have planted an entire garden area just for the hummers (but the butterflies seem to love the same garden, too).
I am planting for the hummers under a developing Mimosa grove (though the trees are listed as exotic/invasive in Florida, I love them). I've included several of the plants on your list, as well as some other red flowers - several Jatrophas, Red Passion Vine, Cross Vine (Bignonia capreolata 'Jekyll' -- a bit less aggressive than the Trumpet Creeper), and several hibiscus. I was amazed to see hummers visiting flowers low to the ground. I always assumed they stayed at about the height most feeders are hung (around 6 - 7 ft), but I have observed them coming within a foot or so of the ground to feed on Ruellia elegans and Pentas.
The nice part about having a garden for the hummers rather than a feeder is that when they come, they tend to stick around for about 5 minutes to sip at a variety of flowers, instead of just darting in to the feeder for a quick nip and departing soon afterwards.
If you get a chance to ask, and haven't already posed the question, I'm wondering if hummers truly are more attracted to red flowers over other colors? or is this a garden myth?
edited to add -- The flower that first brought the hummers to my yard is the Small Orange Morning Glory (Ipomoea coccinea [HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]). These vines are very easy to grow and bloom profusely. They self-seed to the point of being a nuisance in my garden (overtaking the gingers, the bouganvillea, and even the wisteria arbor!), but the hummers sure seem to love them!
Jeremy
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Posted by melody (from Benton, KY) on October 7, 2007 at 8:52 AM:
Thanks ya'll for all of the positive comments....this article was so much fun to write.
My hummers are all but gone this week here in west KY....they say that the Ruby Throats should all be gone by Oct 15 here. I've taken down my feeders, but still have a healthy stand of the Ipomoea coccinea that Jeremy mentioned...(it's just as aggressive this far north too)
I'm not disciplined enough to maintain a feeder for the other species that might wander in through the winter, so I'll wait for the Ruby Throats return...for me that's usually the first week of April...they're like clockwork here.
There's a lot of interesting information in the final installment of this series....which should run in a few days...I hope that ya'll enjoy it too.
Incidentally, Bill is leading a tour to Costa Rica this winter to study hummers in their Central American habitat. He's hoping to capture some banded birds down there and learn just where they came from up here....there has never been a banded bird caught in their winter home...just here in North America. The first group is booked...there's one more tour that still has a few spots left.
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Posted by HaroldS (from Glendale, AZ) on October 8, 2007 at 11:34 AM:
"I'll add that the go poo a LOT and seem to fire it out! LOL! " I can attest to that! We had a nest on our patio in a tall pencil cactus and there was poo all over the walls and ceiling even.
We have two feeders and one hummer we call "the boss" who sits nearby and tries to drive away all others from both feeders. May put up another and drive him/her crazy. Our trumpet vine is in full bloom now and they all love it. Salvias too. Harold
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Posted by JaxFlaGardener (from Jacksonville, FL) on October 8, 2007 at 11:46 AM:
I read somewhere that hummingbirds are very territorial and will defend the feeders from use by other hummers? It seems to me they seem to take turns by coming at different feeding times.
Jeremy
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on October 8, 2007 at 12:05 PM:
Or maybe it's just the same one that keeps coming? I can't tell them apart, so who knows?
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Posted by melody (from Benton, KY) on October 8, 2007 at 1:42 PM:
Some hummers are just bullies. It's in their nature, just like humans. You'll get one or two that stake out the food source and will defend it aggressively. At other times, you'll have more passive personalities that can co-exist and feed without incident. The bullies have no gender lines....there's aggressive females, as well as males. If you have a real meanie, hang feeder where it cannot be seen from the first feeder. It will cut down on squabbles.
Here in KY, after mid-July, we are getting migrating hummers from further north, our spring birds have already gone, and we are getting the birds that headed up into the northern US and Canada.
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on October 8, 2007 at 4:26 PM:
Ahhh, good idea! I was gonna hang a second one, but wouldn't have thought of putting it out of sight of the first one. Thanks, Melody!
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Posted by melody (from Benton, KY) on October 8, 2007 at 5:09 PM:
I just noticed Jeremy's question about colors that hummers are attracted to...they like anything bright. Pink, purple, blue, fuschia and red are the most attractive to them, but they will also investigate yellow and white.
The bright pink surveyor's tape is easy to obtain, and strips of it tied around the garden will lure them in with the motion in the breeze.
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Posted by JaxFlaGardener (from Jacksonville, FL) on October 8, 2007 at 7:35 PM:
That's really amazing info to learn, Melody! I may give it a try.
Jeremy
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Posted by tommyr2006 (from Poughkeepsie, NY) on October 8, 2007 at 10:04 PM:
Hummers are VERY territorial, I've seen them chase birds away MUCH bigger than them! Even other Hummers! Don't mess with their territory! They are tough little birds!
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on October 9, 2007 at 12:34 AM:
Is that why they buzz right up to me, just three feet from my face and hover, looking at me for a few seconds before moving on? Trying to intimidate me? Discern whether I am the enemy? LOL Sounds like a hornet approaching from behind, and that is kinda intimidating...
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Posted by tommyr2006 (from Poughkeepsie, NY) on October 9, 2007 at 8:40 AM:
I've stood within 3 feet of my feeders, motionless and had them come to the feeder, they indeed hum, but it's their wings beating. Amazing creatures....
They perch more than I thought they did too.
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Posted by melody (from Benton, KY) on October 9, 2007 at 9:24 AM:
They are curious little guys and fearless too....they will investigate anything that peaks their interest...I guess they figure that they can get away quick if threatened.
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Posted by birder17 (from Jackson, MO) on October 11, 2007 at 11:14 PM:
I buy Christmas decoration at the after Christmas sales that are red and hang them near the feeders to attract the hummers when they first start migrating. I also read that they eat aphids. I have put some small red ornaments to the wire tomato support to encourage them to the tomato plants. I have my feeder up yet, but my hummers usually leave October 10th. But, this year I think they left about a week earlier. I was out of town, so don't really know when they left.
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on October 11, 2007 at 11:18 PM:
What an excellent idea, birder17--red Christmas ornaments, esp. on the tomatoes! Thanks for sharing that tip.
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Posted by melody (from Benton, KY) on October 12, 2007 at 8:34 AM:
I use the silk poinsettias sometimes in the spring. You can buy a whole bouquet of them for a buck.
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on October 12, 2007 at 2:57 PM:
Ahhh, that's true, at the dollar stores, right?
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Posted by tabasco (from Cincinnati (Anderson, OH) on October 13, 2007 at 4:51 AM:
Here's an idea to try -- [HYPERLINK@www.abigailsings.com]
My father-in-law once had a hummingbird that would sit on his ball cap while my FIL worked in the yard....
I use the red flowers from the dollar store, too. And orange ones for the orioles in springtime. I like the idea of red Christmas ornaments on the tomatoes, too!
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Posted by birder17 (from Jackson, MO) on December 20, 2007 at 10:38 PM:
I still have my ruby throated hummingbird coming to my feeders. One lone hummer. I just appalls me that she is still here. I live 2 hours south of St Louis. She showed up November 19th.
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on December 20, 2007 at 10:48 PM:
Wow--we have our feeder still up, but have seen no visitors. How do you keep the liquid from freezing?
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Posted by birder17 (from Jackson, MO) on December 20, 2007 at 10:58 PM:
Well, I did some research because I have never had a hummer this late in the season. I make the syrup 3:1 vs. 4:1. It takes a lower temp to make the syrup freeze, plus it gives the little hummer a little more energy. On really cold nights, we put up a brooder light. It's been really fun watching her. Such a cheerful looking little thing. People came from St Louis to "band" her in Nov.
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on December 20, 2007 at 11:17 PM:
Ahh, thanks for the recipe--I will make some tomorrow and put it out, and see if I can find a way to get a light there. How exciting for you!
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Posted by tabasco (from Cincinnati (Anderson, OH) on December 31, 2007 at 10:58 PM:
birder--how is your hummingbird? Still around?
Very exciting to have one so late!
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Posted by birder17 (from Jackson, MO) on January 1, 2008 at 1:24 PM:
Tobasco, Yes! She's still here! We can hardly believe it. It's suppose to get down to 15* here the next three nights and highs in the low thirties. She is a ruby throat and looks really healthy and fat. I put out a rotten banana in hopes to draw fruit flies. We have named her "Fiona". Really, can life get better than having a hummingbird sipping syrup on Christmas Day? :)
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Posted by JaxFlaGardener (from Jacksonville, FL) on January 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM:
Interesting this article thread should pop up at this moment. I just had a guest at my job at the Jacksonville Zoo and Gardens tell me that hummingbirds "hitch a ride" by hiding in the feathers of migrating geese. I didn't find this very believable, but I just smiled and said, "Is that so?!" Anyone else heard this?
Jeremy
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Posted by melody (from Benton, KY) on January 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM:
Hummingbird Urban Myth #1
Probably one of the most often passed along bit of incorrect information about hummingbirds there is.
Geese migrate at high altitudes, hummers migrate very low. The two do not cross paths, so the hitch-hiking hummers are completely false.
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Posted by JaxFlaGardener (from Jacksonville, FL) on January 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM:
Thanks, Melody, for the clarification. I couldn't imagine that it was true, but am never willing to correct someone unless I'm sure. Next time I hear that, I'll try a polite approach, like... "well, from what I know, that would be difficult because the two birds travel at very different altitudes..."
I greatly appreciate your knowledge!
jeremy
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Posted by tabasco (from Cincinnati (Anderson, OH) on January 2, 2008 at 9:34 PM:
birder--can't believe she's still around! You must have a terrific nectar recipe!
Do you know where she spends her nights? You must have a warm little nook somewhere close...Congrats on keeping her alive!
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Posted by birder17 (from Jackson, MO) on January 2, 2008 at 11:33 PM:
toasco--Yes, I think it's amazing she is still alive. Last night the low was 14* and I saw her sipping syrup from my feeder today.. I don't take much credit for her incredible survival. I change her syrup. She must have found a warm place around our brick home.
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Posted by KyWoods (from Melbourne, KY) on January 2, 2008 at 11:44 PM:
Amazing! Glad to hear you're taking such good care of her, birder17.
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Posted by tabasco (from Cincinnati (Anderson, OH) on January 6, 2008 at 8:04 AM:
birder17, please keep us posted on how she is doing...
btw, did you post your little winter visitor on the gardenweb hummingbird forums too or is that another missouri winter visitor?
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Posted by birder17 (from Jackson, MO) on January 6, 2008 at 8:19 PM:
Yes, that's her ont eh the post.
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