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|Positive ||Thaumaturgist ||On Nov 25, 2004, Thaumaturgist from Rockledge, FL (Zone 10a) wrote:
Persimmon, sometimes called Oriental Persimmon or
Japanese Persimmon is a native of possibly China,
and it comes from the Ebony Family, Ebenaceae.
Its scientific name of Diospyros kaki tells us
that it was good enough to be named the food of
DIOS = gods SPYROS = wheat (food)
Persimmon nomenclatures however are full of
distorted or abbreviated Oriental, primarily
Japanese names, the original versions of which
were used to identify the plants when they were
imported into the US. Today, we have a number of
cultivars with Asiatic or pseudo-Asiatic names
and meanings, as well as some with truly American
Here are some of the most common oriental words
found in Persimmon nomenclatures today and their
FUYU = winter
GOSHO = imperial palace
HANA = flower of
ICHI = #1
KAKI / GAKI = persimmon
KI = life
SAIJO = best
TANENASHI = without seed
WASE = early
The unique shapes of Persimmons can be classified
(1) Conic (coneshaped)
(2) Roundish (round and sometimes pointed at the
apex like an acorn
(3) Oblate (flattened like a large standard tomato).
(4) Indented ring around the fruit like in ‘Midia’ and
(5) Four sides will sometimes be apparent like in
‘Great Wall’ or ‘Saijo’.
(6) Distinctly lobed sections like in ‘Sheng’ and
(7) Some cultivars are tucked or folded in at the
calyx like in ‘Suruga’.
Fuyu with the Product Look-Up (PLU) code of 4428
is the cultivar that is grown the most in the US.
Israel grows an identical persimmon under the name of
“Sharon” that is widely sold in US Supermarkets
under the same PLU of 4428.
All Persimmons can be divided into two basic
categories; non-astringent and astringent.
“Hana Fuyu”, also known as “Yotsundani”
“Matsumoto Wase Fuyu” is an earlier ripening bud
sport of “Fuyu” discovered by Mr. Matsumoto.
“Ichikikei Jiro” is a bud sport from “Jiro”.
“Midia” is the largest of the non-astringent types
with fruit often weighing 3/4 of a pound.
“Fuyu”, is also known as Fuyugaki, is the most popular
non-astringent tree in Florida and is the most widely grown
persimmon cultivar in the world.
“Suruga”, is the sweetest of the non-astringent types.
“Saijo”, is considered one of the sweetest persimmons.
It is a good homeowner type.
“Giombo”, is similar to “Saijo” in fruit quality, the fruit
is a connoisseur”s choice.
“Hachiya”, is a commercial cultivar in California.
“Tanenashi”, is the most popular astringent cultivar
in Florida, matures heavy crops without pollination
and will seldom set seed even if pollinated. It is a
good tree for homeowners.
“Hiratanenashi”, is a widely grown commercial cultivar
“Tamopan”, is a cultivar with large fruit having a circular
depression around the top nearest the stem.
“Eureka”, is a common cultivar in Texas.
“Ormond”, is sometimes called the Christmas persimmon.
|Positive ||Monocromatico ||On Oct 17, 2003, Monocromatico from Rio de Janeiro
Brazil (Zone 11) wrote:
Japanese Persimon (or Kaki) is an apreciated fruit over here in Brazil. It has a sweet, but not strong taste. It looks like a tomato, and it´s peel is as thin as a tomato´s.
Nowadays, the fruits comercialized don´t have seeds, so it´s generally propagated by cuttings or graftings.
This plant has been said to grow in the following regions:
Blue Mountain, Alabama
Manhattan Beach, California
New Orleans, Louisiana
Greenville, North Carolina