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PlantFiles: Coneflower
Echinacea 'Evan Saul'

Family: Asteraceae (ass-ter-AY-see-ee) (Info)
Genus: Echinacea (ek-in-AY-shee-a) (Info)
Cultivar: Evan Saul
Additional cultivar information: (PP17659, Big Sky Series; aka Sundown)
Hybridized by Saul; Year of Registration or Introduction: 2005

8 vendors have this plant for sale.

20 members have or want this plant for trade.


24-36 in. (60-90 cm)

15-18 in. (38-45 cm)

USDA Zone 4a: to -34.4 C (-30 F)
USDA Zone 4b: to -31.6 C (-25 F)
USDA Zone 5a: to -28.8 C (-20 F)
USDA Zone 5b: to -26.1 C (-15 F)
USDA Zone 6a: to -23.3 C (-10 F)
USDA Zone 6b: to -20.5 C (-5 F)
USDA Zone 7a: to -17.7 C (0 F)
USDA Zone 7b: to -14.9 C (5 F)
USDA Zone 8a: to -12.2 C (10 F)
USDA Zone 8b: to -9.4 C (15 F)

Sun Exposure:
Full Sun


Bloom Color:

Bloom Time:
Mid Summer
Late Summer/Early Fall
Mid Fall


Other details:
This plant is attractive to bees, butterflies and/or birds
Flowers are fragrant
Average Water Needs; Water regularly; do not overwater
This plant is resistant to deer

Soil pH requirements:
6.1 to 6.5 (mildly acidic)
6.6 to 7.5 (neutral)
7.6 to 7.8 (mildly alkaline)

Patent Information:

Propagation Methods:
By dividing the rootball

Seed Collecting:
N/A: plant does not set seed, flowers are sterile, or plants will not come true from seed

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12 positives
5 neutrals
6 negatives

Gardeners' Notes:

Negative plantgnome1 On Aug 5, 2012, plantgnome1 from nowhere land, NY (Zone 6b) wrote:

Yet another disappointing coneflower. Fades to a really ugly shade of salmon. moving them to the back of my yard where no body can see them.

Negative virginiarose On Oct 2, 2011, virginiarose from Southeast, VA (Zone 8a) wrote:

Planted this in spring, had one flower then it died. The flower didn't even look like the picture, which showed a orangey,red full happy flower.

Positive Massgirl On Jun 18, 2010, Massgirl from Franklin, MA wrote:

I bought this last year from a local Home Depot. It had several blooms already on it, and after planting, it did really well - lots of new growth and blooms. This spring (zone 6a), it really took off! It is about 4 feet high, and does lean a bit, so I've had to stake it. But the bloom color is gorgeous, and they do start out quilled, like others have complained, but they straighten out after awhile. Also, the blooms have lasted quite a long period of time for me, maybe about two weeks, and even then, they die off, and I have tons more coming in! So pretty, I love it!

Positive redchic01 On Aug 8, 2009, redchic01 from southern willamette valley, OR (Zone 7a) wrote:

It seems to me as if there is more than one strain of this plant in production now. Since this spring I have purchased six plants of Sundown from three different sources. Initially just two for myself and then other family members wanted some so I tracked them down. Four of these plants are great! The color holds well, the petals completely unfurl, and the fragrance is great. The other two start out the same, but as others have said, the color fades and the petals don't completely unfurl. Anyhow.... I think that if a person can find a strong strain of the plant that they'll be really happy with it. The four strong ones that I have are absolutely wonderful!!

Positive stormyla On Jul 31, 2009, stormyla from Norristown, PA (Zone 6b) wrote:

Most Echie purists probably don't like this plant, but it makes one of the lovliest spots in my garden. It puts out an incredible amount of blooms week after week. Some of them open quilled, but eventually unfurl. I love the color changes on the blossums. Even those that take on a purplish appearence, still retain enough orange to give an overall coral color. The flowers paint a lovely backdrop for my daylilies.

Negative echinaceamaniac On Jul 22, 2009, echinaceamaniac from (Clint) Medina, TN (Zone 7b) wrote:

VERY negative. I can't say anything negative enough to describe my disappointment with this mutant. It looks like something that grew next to Chernobyl.

Quilled petals randomly appear and the blooms fade so quickly that these are not what they were promised to be.

Positive SW_gardener On Jul 13, 2009, SW_gardener from (Zone 6a) wrote:

Last year I picked this up mid-summer and it did 'ok'. The leaves looked almost burnt like they had way too much sun and the flower stems kept rotting and falling off. However, it came back WONDERFULLY this year and just came into full bloom! The flowers are lightly scented and a very vivid orange colour that fades to pink. I love it and it's had none of the problems it had last year! So if for some reason yours isn't doing/looking very well give it another chance before you toss it.

Positive Sneirish On Aug 8, 2008, Sneirish from Swansea, MA (Zone 6b) wrote:

My sister "collects" Coneflowers, so I have kind of tagged along, though I am not impressed with all of the various hybrids. BUT, I do have to say that I like my "Sundown." The color has not faded out as much as some of the others do. And it tends to retain its shape and appearance quite a bit longer too, with no droopy petals. I am very pleased with this one. I also have mine in a spot where it gets a good bit of sun from morning through early afternoon, and then gets shade for the hottest part of the day. Maybe that makes the difference.

Negative danludwig On Jun 6, 2008, danludwig from Cincinnati, OH wrote:

I ordered this plant and was told "Regretfully, these plants have not met our quality control specifications. Rather than delaying your shipment any longer, we have cancelled these plants off your order." Sounds like they saved me an eyesore......

Positive guspuppy On Mar 20, 2008, guspuppy from Warren, OH (Zone 5b) wrote:

I love this flower! I have found that the flowers keep their color much longer if the plant is in morning sun with some afternoon shade, they wont fade so quickly.

Positive Allie88 On Sep 8, 2007, Allie88 from Palmyra, PA (Zone 6a) wrote:

I love this plant. The unusual color is wonderful. If you are a gardener who doesn't get too uptight about "unfurled petals" and whatever else the negative reports were, you will find this plant definitely worthwhile. The positives far outweigh the negatives in my opinion. The color is gorgeous and the flowers quite beautiful.

Negative Ducky777 On Sep 7, 2007, Ducky777 from Arlington, TX wrote:

I'm surprised the negative comments were given a 'neutral.' This plant is a dud!!! I've heard the major nurseries are giving people their money back for this inferior hybrid. Mine is a mess. Ugly unfurled petals, unopened flowers, short and stunted. I give this plant TWO HUGE THUMBS DOWN. BTW - I have E. Sunset and it is fabulous!

Positive kimmy222 On Jul 5, 2007, kimmy222 from Reading, PA wrote:

I think this cultivar of the Big Sky cones to be very beautiful. I just planted one about two months ago, and I have tons of blooms. The petals are an eye-catching rose color near the brown cone and they fade into a deep orange. Gorgeous. I just saw this cultivar at Longwood Gardens, PA last weekend, and it is beautiful in its maturity. I've noted some pictures with petals folded back, but I have not seen this in my own plant. The only problem encountered is that I'm not the only one that finds the plant appealing. Bunnies do too. They have nibbled off a lot of the tender new foliage at the base. Still the plant is strong and has found a new bunny-free location in the front of the house. I can't wait to see it next year...bigger and better. As of now, I would definitely recommend this cultivar.

Positive vossner On May 3, 2007, vossner from Richmond, TX (Zone 9a) wrote:

The color on my plant is very bright and even. Planted in mostly sun, inground. Purchased locally.

Negative willisjw On Apr 26, 2007, willisjw from Frederick, MD wrote:

We found this cultivar disappointing. The colors were faded and in no way matched the catalog pictures.

Neutral berrygirl On Mar 23, 2007, berrygirl from Braselton, GA (Zone 7b) wrote:

For info only:

Developed by Itsaul Plants of Georgia, the Big Sky series of Echinaceas are crosses of E. purpurea -- the traditional Purple Coneflower -- and E. paradoxa. They are heavy-blooming, unusually long-lasting, and sport a range of brand-new colors for the family.

Neutral bigcityal On Oct 28, 2006, bigcityal from Menasha, WI (Zone 5a) wrote:

I am not overly enthused with this plant, but save negative ratings for plants that totally fail. Yes it did have some of the rolled petals and the orange color quickly fades to purple. The leaves on mine and others I saw looked wrong for the second half of the season.

Positive MsJacki On Jul 18, 2006, MsJacki from Munford, TN (Zone 7b) wrote:

While the description says orange, the blooms on mine are a deep russet color and beautiful. Everyone that sees it comments on the unusual color.

Positive hedgwytch On Jul 12, 2006, hedgwytch from Tulsa, OK wrote:

The picture on the info card showed a brighter orange-red. I thought I was buying E. "Sunset", but when I got home, noticed that in small letters it said "Evan Saul" underneath. I wasn't thrilled with the color, since I was wanting something brighter, and was considering ripping it out, but it has grown so much and has continually bloomed, that I've decided to keep it. It may not be the most beautiful echinacea, but it is one of the best bloomers!

Positive nanny_56 On Jul 6, 2006, nanny_56 from Putnam County, IN (Zone 5b) wrote:

I had the same impressions and thoughts on this one too. I bought at a local nursery so it was a decent size starter plant. As it now about tripled in size & the flowers are looking much nicer though still mix of orange & pink, which is what I read in the plant description, but getting more of the flatter petals. I have it planted with Sweet Dreams Coreopis and it is beautiful!

Neutral moyesii On Jun 28, 2005, moyesii from Long Island, NY (Zone 6b) wrote:

I have a similar experience to both previous posters.

Just a few weeks after planting in spring, the tiny thing produced a bud, which took the longest time to flower.

The flower is similar to the way scutler describes. The petals never unfurled, and the flower is pink. I was a little annoyed with this ugly thing. But maybe after the plant matures, the problem will fix itself.

Neutral DreamOfSpring On Jun 6, 2005, DreamOfSpring from Charleston, SC (Zone 9a) wrote:

While I do like the plant, I am noticing unexpected variation in petals (please see photo). Some are "normal", flat, open completely, and are deep coral-orange. Others are "rolled" or tubular with the coral portion sealed inside and what would normally be the underside of the petal exposed; these are more pink. Both types of petals appear on the same flower. I have not seen this in any official photos of the plant and am eager to see photos from other DGers.

Neutral BeginnerLucky On May 21, 2005, BeginnerLucky from Elkton, MD (Zone 7a) wrote:

I found one of these at a nursery last weekend and planted it. This morning I noticed that the plant has put out a bud already, even though it's only about six inches tall.

If it actually blooms, I'll put up a photo.


This plant has been said to grow in the following regions:

Elk Grove, California
Denver, Colorado
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Cordele, Georgia
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Saint Charles, Illinois
Williamsville, Illinois
Davenport, Iowa
Hebron, Kentucky
Aberdeen, Maryland
Frederick, Maryland
Franklin, Massachusetts
Swansea, Massachusetts
Dearborn Heights, Michigan
Saint Cloud, Minnesota
Wayzata, Minnesota
Doniphan, Nebraska
Long Branch, New Jersey
Albuquerque, New Mexico
Coram, New York
Tonawanda, New York
Chapel Hill, North Carolina
Pittsboro, North Carolina
Warren, Ohio
Tulsa, Oklahoma
Corvallis, Oregon
Westfir, Oregon
Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania
Norristown, Pennsylvania
Palmyra, Pennsylvania
Reading, Pennsylvania
Bluffton, South Carolina
Inman, South Carolina
North Augusta, South Carolina
Atoka, Tennessee
Knoxville, Tennessee
Conroe, Texas
Houston, Texas
Missouri City, Texas
Richmond, Texas
Kaysville, Utah
Lexington, Virginia
Portsmouth, Virginia
Kalama, Washington
Seattle, Washington (2 reports)
Ellsworth, Wisconsin
Hartford, Wisconsin
Menasha, Wisconsin
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Mount Horeb, Wisconsin
Watertown, Wisconsin

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