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Senecio confusus 'Sao Paulo'

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Family: Asteraceae (ass-ter-AY-see-ee) (Info)
Genus: Senecio (sen-ek-ee-o ) (Info)
Species: confusus (kon-FEW-sus) (Info)
Cultivar: Sao Paulo

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26 members have or want this plant for trade.

Category:
Vines and Climbers

Height:
8-10 ft. (2.4-3 m)

Spacing:
12-15 in. (30-38 cm)

Hardiness:
USDA Zone 9a: to -6.6 C (20 F)
USDA Zone 9b: to -3.8 C (25 F)
USDA Zone 10a: to -1.1 C (30 F)
USDA Zone 10b: to 1.7 C (35 F)
USDA Zone 11: above 4.5 C (40 F)

Sun Exposure:
Full Sun

Danger:
Handling plant may cause skin irritation or allergic reaction

Bloom Color:
Red-Orange

Bloom Time:
Blooms all year

Foliage:
Evergreen
Chartreuse/Yellow
Smooth-Textured

Other details:
Average Water Needs; Water regularly; do not overwater
This plant is attractive to bees, butterflies and/or birds

Soil pH requirements:
6.1 to 6.5 (mildly acidic)
6.6 to 7.5 (neutral)
7.6 to 7.8 (mildly alkaline)

Patent Information:
Non-patented

Propagation Methods:
From softwood cuttings
From seed; direct sow after last frost

Seed Collecting:
Allow seedheads to dry on plants; remove and collect seeds

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Profile:

6 positives
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Gardeners' Notes:

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Positive dfgardener On May 24, 2013, dfgardener from San Antonio, TX wrote:

Very drough tolerant as a mature plant. I started mine from a cutting 8 years ago. Grows up on dwarf youpon hollies for support. Dies back to the ground every winter in very cold weather but returns in the spring. Alkaline rocky soil. No fertilizer. Light mulch. Some water in dry periods. No pampered care. Blooms well. Not aggressive yet. Has not spread yet. Lights up the front yard. Gorgeous. The bright orange flame vine looks great with the pink pavonia rock rose flowers.

Positive happy_girl On Oct 31, 2012, happy_girl from Redondo Beach, CA (Zone 10b) wrote:

I got this plant through an online nursery and it is AMAZING! I planted it near our address plaque and it is a ball of red and green in a circular shape....thick with flowers. It seems to always be in bloom.

I purchased another one and planted it in half sun/half shade next to the garage door. We put a wire up the side and then across the overhang above the garage door all the way over and past the front door. The information for this plant says 8 to 10 feet but this vine has grown about 16 feet so far. We even planted another one on the other side which should meet in the center eventually.

It is a fast growing beautiful vine that brings delight to us when we arrive home. Doesn't seem to need much care at all. I do, however, have to use green tape to secure it to the wire otherwise we have cascading vines.

As soon as I can, I'll attach a photo.

Positive subyz On Feb 20, 2010, subyz from Gwynn's Island, VA (Zone 7b) wrote:

I think the cold winter here in Austin may have killed this amazing bloomer, but if so, I will still look for another to replace it. It was the star bloomer of our new hummingbird/butterfly garden we put in last spring. From what some people have said here, it may surprise me and comeback. That would even make it more amazing!

Positive morabeza79 On Aug 1, 2009, morabeza79 from Honolulu (upper Mānoa), HI (Zone 11) wrote:

I have long wanted to grow this species, but was wary to introduce anything that might prove invasive within Hawai'i's vast array of micro- and 'macro-' climates and its ber-imperiled endemic plants and ecosystems.

When I obtained this clone I watched it very carefully and dead-headed every single flower before they could have a chance to set seed. Later on I discovered that the clone 'So Paulo' seems to be self-sterile and incapable of producing seed by its lonesome. Perhaps it is just missing another clone for fertilisation of the embryos to occur, however I have come to learn through HEAR.org that the regular species of S. confusus was already spreading at least on Maui and O'ahu islands. I don't know if its spread is due to asexual or sexual reproduction. The regular S. confusus is much less robust in floral and foliar parts.

Years on, I still keep an eye on my Senecio confusus 'So Paulo' to see if seed ever develops. Thousands of flowers later, I have yet to see a single seed formed. This makes growing the plant less of a controversy for myself, though I continue to be vigilant.

It is a very easy vine to grow and it loves to ramble everywhere it can. I'm in mauka Honolulu where the rainfall is average ~120"pa and the vine grows rapidly. It will grow and bloom in shade, although it becomes quite etiolated and blooms less frequently. It thrives and blooms abundantly in full sun. I cut mine back every 4-6 months or so to keep it in check for my purposes and it doesn't seem to mind a liberal cut back.

The exuberant and seemingly endless supply of vibrant orange flowers are reason enough to grow it. S. c. 'So Paulo' has more robust and more full flowers, making it a great choice.

Positive anniedelcarpio On Jun 6, 2008, anniedelcarpio from Lafayette, LA wrote:

This is an easy to grow, hardy plant. In southern Louisiana, in three months, this vine grew seven--eight feet. It died back to the ground during winter and came back full again this spring.

Positive usa522 On Dec 14, 2007, usa522 from Canyon Lake, TX wrote:

Searched for months for this plant at local nurseries, Lowes, Home Depot, and others. Finally found two poor looking half dead plants in an abandoned grow house for $5.00. Took them home and planted them in full sun next to my chain link fence at the property line. I mix 80 pounds top soil, 80 pounds humus, and 40 pounds of aged cow manure for planting medium. Grew over ten feet in 4 months, bushed out very well with numerous streamers, and bloom continuously here in the Texas Hill Country north of San Antonio. They don't like too much water. The deer think they are delicious! I had to hand twine them at first. Supposed to be toxic but I handle them all the time with no ill effect.

Regional...

This plant has been said to grow in the following regions:

Lake Purdy, Alabama
Mobile, Alabama
Lake Havasu City, Arizona
Mesa, Arizona
Scottsdale, Arizona
Redondo Beach, California
Bartow, Florida
Combee Settlement, Florida
Coral Springs, Florida
Delray Beach, Florida
Gulf Gate Estates, Florida
Jacksonville, Florida
Lake Lorraine, Florida
Orlando, Florida
Pensacola, Florida
Sebastian, Florida
Wauchula, Florida
Townsend, Georgia
Honolulu, Hawaii
Lafayette, Louisiana (2 reports)
Clinton, Mississippi
Barton Creek, Texas
Canyon Lake, Texas
College Station, Texas
Falcon Lake Estates, Texas
Groves, Texas
Houston, Texas (3 reports)
Huntsville, Texas
Linn, Texas
New Braunfels, Texas
San Antonio, Texas (2 reports)
Santa Fe, Texas
Spring, Texas



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