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Victory Seed Company

Green Star: Good Victory Seed Company is a Watchdog 30 company. Green Star: Good

Mailing Address:
P.O. Box 192
Molalla, Oregon 97038 (United States)

Phone: (503) 829-3126
Fax: (503) 829-3126

Catalog Order Page: Hyperlink
Paper Catalog Cost: $2 (refundable with 1st order)

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Negative 0 1 1
This company offers a variety of seeds.

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  Company Comment, posted on January 7, 2013:  
Our roots can be traced back to 1909 when Victor H. Dunton established a farm to support his family and to serve our local community of Liberal, Oregon. Building upon our ancestor’s efforts, the Victory Seed Company was organized in 1998 on Victor's farm. Using the power of the internet, the community that we now serve is global.

The Victory Seed Company remains an independent, farm-based, family owned and operated organization working to protect threatened seed varieties from becoming extinct. We work with cherished family heirlooms, rare old commercial releases, as well as newer interesting varieties - some of which we ourselves have released. Regardless of their histories, all of the seeds which we offer are open-pollinated, non-hybrid, non-GMO and not chemically treated.

Our mission is focused on cultivar accuracy, seed quality, customer support and of course, keeping these vegetable, herb, and flower seeds available to our home gardening supporters. It is through the support of your purchases that we are able to continue our seed variety preservation work. We also support the work of many charitable organizations by annually donating thousands of dollars worth of seeds for their outreach and educational programs.

Along with our secure online seed store and shopping cart system (http://www.VictorySeeds.com), we have an informational web site (http://www.VintageVeggies.com) that provides seed saving, general gardening and other related information. As a personal "pet project," Mike has been working on a historical horticulture informational site at http://www.SaveSeeds.org. You can also check out our YouTube Channel at http://www.youtube.com/VictorySeeds/ or read our blog at http://www.vintageveggies.com/blog/. We hope that you will stop by one of our web resources and get to know us better. We look forward to serving you in the future.

Gardening Success to You!

Mike Dunton
(Great-grandson of Victor H. Dunton)

  Feedback History and Summary  
159 positives
2 neutrals
1 negative

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Positive sjamesNorway
Sokna
Norway
(2 reviews)
December 7, 2014
Posted on September 10, 2014, updated December 7, 2014
Victory Seeds\' staff were super-helpful when I had trouble completing an order from Norway, even though they don\'t have an export department. The seeds arrived as quickly as could be expected. They have a great selection of tomato seeds.
On December 7th, 2014, sjamesNorway added the following:

The seeds arrived 7 days after I ordered, in NORWAY! Once again a very positive experience with Victory Seeds. It's amazing that a small company can have such a great selection of seeds, and still show interest in individual customers. Hats off to Mike and his staff.
Company representative comment on September 23, 2014:
On Sep 23, 2014 12:41 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you so much for taking the time to leave this report about your experience with us. We appreciate your support and now that we know there are no problems mailing to Norway, please tell all of your gardening friends and family about us :)

Take care and best of gardening success to you.

~Mike

Positive Thaid
Clover Hill, MD
(1 review)
December 6, 2014
After reviewing reviews posted here, and witnessing cool, calm, reasoned interactions of management with those who clearly have skipped their meds, I will most definitely be ordering my 2015 products from VS. ;)
Company representative comment on December 6, 2014:
On Dec 6, 2014 12:29 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hello Thaid . . . Thank you so much for the post that you made. It is always nice to "meet" reasoning people like you. You comment made me smile :) Thank you also for your interest in helping to support our work with your order. We look forward to being of service to you. Best Regards, ~Mike

Positive MarkinCT
Danbury, CT
United States
(4 reviews)
November 11, 2014
I found the Victory Seeds people to be very helpful and clear in their communications. I just received my tomato seed order yesterday and it was extremely nicely packaged with lots of relevant information. I'm looking forward to a good tomato season in 2015 and will get my raised beds going. I will certainly work with Victory Seeds in the future.

Regards from Connecticut,

Mark
Company representative comment on November 11, 2014:
On Nov 11, 2014 10:14 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you so much for taking the time to post here, Mark. Helping to spread the word about us in this way is greatly appreciated! I look forward to hearing how your 2015 season goes. Let me know if we can be of further assistance.

Best Regards,

~Mike

Positive Carol12345
Cleveland, OH
(1 review)
October 23, 2014
I was happily surprised to see the variety of seeds available! Plus the shipping was much faster than I expected.

I am having great success with my Fall and Winter gardens so far. I will definitely order from Victory Seed again!
Company representative comment on October 23, 2014:
On Oct 23, 2014 9:21 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Carol12345,

I am glad that we had the variety of seeds that you were seeking and that you are having good fall garden results. So many folks don't take advantage of the productivity that can be squeezed out of their gardening spaces late in the year. It is always nice to hear reports back from folks that do!

Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences here. We look forward to being of service to you in the future.

~Mike

Positive PMCO14
Grand Junction, CO
(1 review)
October 20, 2014
Thank you! Victory Seed Company for the outstanding support that was giving throughout the duration of my real first victory garden grown this year.
All of the troubleshooting and great gardening tips provided by you made my garden a complete success.
I had no idea there were so many varieties of seeds out there and was amazed at the variety of heirloom seeds you had to offer.
I would like to try and grow tomatoes hydroponically this winter. Do you have any good suggestions on which seeds may work best?
It's a pleasure to find a company that really covers all of the bases from sales to service and you hit it out of the park.
Thank you again for the fast shipping, the great customer support and the knowledge to grow a successful garden.

I will definately be a repeat customer for years to come.


Company representative comment on October 20, 2014:
On Oct 20, 2014 9:29 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for taking the time to drop such a nice note and to recognize the team here at the Victory Seed Company.

As a mission driven company, our focus in on our seed variety preservation work and we realize that none of it would be possible without the support of our gardening friends. This does affect our organization's culture to be very customer driven. And I am very happy that we were able to help you and that your garden was a success.

In regards to gardening hydroponically . . . It is funny that you ask. I have been receiving quite a few inquiries from folks about this subject. It is a food production method that is of interest to me but unfortunately, one that I do not have a lot of hands-on experience with. That said, I will be working to compile information from customer feedback and build a section on the web site in the future.

For tomatoes, I do have a section created for varieties that are suitable for container gardening so some of those may do well in a hydroponic grow. You can find it on the site here - [HYPERLINK@www.victoryseeds.com] 'Tiny Tim' is a variety that comes to mind.

When you do start on your hydroponic adventure, drop me an email and we can all compare notes.

Thank you again for your review, your support, and your word-of-mouth recommendations to your gardening friends and family.

Best Regards,

~Mike

Negative rissole
Atlanta, GA
(7 reviews)
September 23, 2014
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Also, I would encourage anyone who orders from Victory Seed to always use a credit card. That way you will always be protected if your order gets lost or damaged. In such a case, if Victory Seed won\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t cooperate, just contact your credit-card company and initiate a chargeback. It basically works every time. Be an assertive consumer, and don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t let dishonest companies push you around.

I would also like to say that I am less likely to order from Victory Seed in the future because of their \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"policy\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"--I avoid companies like that who try to shirk their responsibilities. In general, I will shop elsewhere unless I can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t find a particular item anywhere else.
On September 18th, 2014, rissole added the following:

Here\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s one more thing to keep in mind: If you choose USPS First Class shipping and the package gets lost, what proof would you have that Victory Seed ever sent your package? I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t think you would have any. So, to make the customer shoulder the blame in such a situation if they don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t buy insurance is just completely irresponsible.
On September 18th, 2014, rissole added the following:

Here\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s one more thing to think about: When you click the option to add insurance, Victory Seed charges you $1 (or $2) extra, depending on the size of your order. However, when I went to the USPS Web site to calculate how much it costs to add insurance to a package, what it said was \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"From $2.10.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" So, it seems that you *cannot* actually add any insurance to a package for only $1 or $2. This brings up the question: If you pay the $1 or $2 extra, is it really going to the USPS, or directly to Victory Seed instead? It seems to me that it must be the latter. If so, then this \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"insurance\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" thing just sounds like a gimmick to make more profit off unsuspecting customers.

Another thing to keep in mind: USPS Priority Mail already INCLUDES insurance up to a certain amount. Yet Victory Seeds still expects you to add extra \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"insurance\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" on top of that?

Wow. This definitely sounds deceptive--to say the least.
On September 19th, 2014, rissole changed the rating from neutral to negative and added the following:

It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s obvious that Victory Seed is ripping off customers with its so-called insurance, so I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'m changing this rating to \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Negative.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" They also need to refund any customers who opted for their \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"insurance\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" but also chose Priority Mail for shipping ever since Priority Mail started including insurance automatically about a year ago. This dishonest behavior by Victory Seed is completely outrageous. How come nobody else has called them on it up to this point?
On September 19th, 2014, rissole added the following:

One more thing: Apparently USPS \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Express\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" mail already includes insurance too, so any customers who chose that shipping option but also opted for Victory Seed\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"insurance\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" are due a refund as well.

Now that I realize what this company has been doing, I will not be ordering from them again.
On September 20th, 2014, rissole added the following:

First of all, you never addressed the fact that Priority Mail and Express Mail *already* include insurance automatically. So, do you plan to refund customers who purchased your \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"insurance\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" while choosing those mail options?? And why don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t you mention on your Web site that those mail options include insurance already? Why would customers want to purchase \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"extra\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" insurance on top of that?

You also never addressed the fact that you as a business *are* responsible if a package is lost or gets damaged. Displaying that \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"sorry, but if you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t buy insurance, we\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re not responsible\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" policy on your Web site to scare customers is very deceptive and shows a lack of respect (and worse) toward customers.

Because you never addressed the points above, I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'m just not buying the explanation that your \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"insurance\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" is not a profit-maker. If you want me to believe your explanation, then you need to:

1) Thoroughly address both points above.

2) Give us specific details about your postage provider and the optional insurance that you purchase through them, including rates. Documentation from a Web page would be very helpful.

Besides, how many other companies on the Web offer optional \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"insurance\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"? That indicates serious cheapness of the part of the company right there. Could you imagine buying something from, say, Wal-Mart.com and have them tell you that if you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t buy insurance, they\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re not responsible for lost or damaged items??? No, they pay for the insurance themselves, just like any reputable, customer-service friendly company would do.
On September 21st, 2014, rissole added the following:

Oh, one more thing. Please don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t use the excuse that you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re a \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Mom and Pop company\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" to justify what you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re doing. Most \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Mom and Pop companies\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" out there don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t try to deceptively intimidate customers into buying insurance for fear of losing all their money on a lost or stolen shipment. No, while these companies may not necessarily buy insurance on every shipment, they\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'ll absorb the loss from lost or stolen shipments without trying to force the customer to buy insurance instead. And they certainly won\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t try to get a customer to pay for insurance that is already included in Priority Mail or Express Mail. I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'m sorry, but that\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s plain fraud.
On September 21st, 2014, rissole added the following:

A final point.

Mike wrote:

\\\\\\\"Sadly, not everyone in this world is honest, moral or ethical.\\\\\\\"

That\\\\\\\'s pretty funny. Is this not the pot calling the kettle black? Do you consider it \\\\\\\"honest, moral, or ethical\\\\\\\" to charge people for insurance that is already included in Priority Mail or Express Mail?

And just because you make a \\\\\\\"policy\\\\\\\" does not mean that it would hold up in a court of law. If someone pays by credit card, most likely any policies that the credit-card company has are going to supersede any policies that you might draft yourself. You can make any \\\\\\\"policy\\\\\\\" that you want on your Web site--that doesn\\\\\\\'t mean the policy is valid according to U.S. commercial law.

Can a doctor make up a \\\\\\\"policy\\\\\\\" that he will operate on a patient at a reduced rate if the patient agrees not to sue in case of problems? I think the answer should be pretty obvious. ;)
On September 23rd, 2014, rissole added the following:

Mike,

By your failure to address the points I made, it seems obvious that you have nothing substantive to back up your claims that your \\\"insurance\\\" is not a profit-maker for you. It also seems obvious that you were indeed aware that Priority Mail and Express Mail already include insurance up to a certain amount, because you certainly didn\\\'t express any surprise when I brought that point up, nor have you offered to refund money (or even apologized) to any customers who bought your \\\"insurance\\\" on top of that already included in those two mailing options. In fact, you have not even bothered to comment on the matter--your silence is very telling. In addition, any customers who did use those mailing options but did not purchase your \\\"insurance\\\" were lied to and led to believe that their orders were not insured and that they would have to absorb any loss for lost, stolen, or damaged orders themselves, all the while Victory Seed could have pocketed compensation from the USPS for such orders without passing a dime of it on to those customers.

Thank you, Mike, for implicitly confirming everything that I wrote. I\\\'m just surprised that none of your other customers seem to have seen through all this up to this point, but hopefully they will now. And I hope that anyone who may have purchased your \\\"insurance\\\" while selecting Priority Mail or Express Mail demands a refund, as well as anyone who may have had a lost, stolen, or damaged shipment but did not purchase your \\\"insurance.\\\" Your unapologetic dishonesty in this matter is outrageous. Do you think that your customers are stupid? How long did you think that you could keep getting away with this? So much for your assertion (in one of your comments to another customer) about trying to operate your business by the \\\"Golden Rule\\\"--I hope nobody falls for that line of yours in the future. Sorry, Mike, but the jig is up.

Oh, and thank you for one more thing as well. I did some research on the Web and found out that the consensus among buyers is that if a company has a policy that says they\\\'re not responsible for lost or damaged shipments unless the buyer purchases insurance, they are bad news and should be avoided. So, I will no longer do business with *any* company that has such a policy, and I hope that others will follow suit.

P.S. In case anyone is wondering, it seems that each time I add more details to my review, this Web site keeps adding a \\\"\\\\\\\" character to the apostrophes I had written earlier. So, my very first comment has the most \\\"\\\\\\\" characters, while my last comment has none at all. Sorry if this is confusing, but I have no idea why this keeps happening. :) Maybe it has something to do with my browser and operating system.
On September 23rd, 2014, rissole added the following:

Nice try, Mike, but here are the facts once again:

1) You have been LYING to your customers on the \"checkout page\" that unless they buy your optional insurance, you are not responsible for lost or damaged shipments. Since Priority Mail and Express Mail already have such insurance, those packages are insured. (No, it\'s not obvious and not everybody knows that.) Why are you trying to charge them extra? Are you going to offer refunds to customers who fell for your deception? Besides, you are still responsible for lost or damaged shipments, whether customers buy insurance or not. The purpose of insurance is to protect the seller, not the buyer.

Mike wrote:

\"Since this upholds our end of the transactional requirement by proving that the order was mailed and delivered....\"

If you have to prove that the order was delivered, then this contradicts your stated policy that you are not responsible for lost packages. So, which is it, Mike?

2) You have not offered any kind of documentation that you are not making money off your \"insurance.\" Who are you buying it from, and where are the published rates?

3) The consensus among buyers on the Internet is that sellers who have policies like yours are bad news and should be avoided. You have also not provided any documentation that your \"policy\" is valid according to U.S. commercial law.

If you want to play the victim, go right ahead. But your unapologetic dishonesty speaks for itself. My attack against you is not personal--I just don\'t like to see companies get away with defrauding customers.

As far as my identity goes, Dave\'s Garden is smart enough to protect those who leave feedback. Why would anybody want to leave honest negative feedback if they felt they could be retaliated against by the company? Most people that I know don\'t use their real names when they leave feedback on the Internet--that doesn\'t mean that their comments are not honest or valid. It\'s the same reason many people call 911 to report crimes but don\'t leave their names--they don\'t want the criminal coming after them too. So, please don\'t think that playing the victim is going to work for you here.
On September 23rd, 2014, rissole added the following:

One more point.

Mike wrote:

"Although in no way constructive, your feedback did prompt me to revisit this package insurance service and I did take the time to clarify the statements about the 'Additional Package Insurance' on the checkout page. I will also be working on making the policy even clearer to avoid this issue from arising in the future."

Why would you need to clarify anything if there was never any problem in the first place? So, you obviously realized that something needs to be changed.

As for changing my rating, you must be joking. At the very least, you would first have to apologize profusely for your deception and then offer refunds to anyone who might have been affected by it.

Company representative comment on September 23, 2014:
On Sep 20, 2014 4:39 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for your interest in the Victory Seed Company but I wish that you had gotten to know us a bit, or at least attempted to talk to me about the policy that you have issues with prior to making false accusations and incorrect assumptions. I take great pride in our company and in the service that we provide to both the gardening as well as the seed saving communities.

When you visit the website of any company or organization and read their policies, you can bet that they are borne out of some specific experience. In the case of the policy that you are having issues with, sadly, not everyone in this world is honest, moral or ethical. If we did not have policies like this, there are people that perform the electronic equivalent of \"shoplifting.\" And since we are a mom and pop, not a big box corporation, we just cannot absorb that kind of loss.

That said, yes we do offer optional insurance. Yes it is real. Yes it is cheap (we purchase it through our postage provider and offer it at our cost ... it is NOT a profit generator for us ... just a service for our customers that regularly experience mail theft in their location). Yes it is cheaper that what a person is charged at the post office. And the reality is, very few people ever opt for it and it is never an issue.

In a nutshell, please do give us a chance to be your garden seed provider ... all these other folks on here the Garden Watchdog are a good testimony to what we do and how we serve them year in and year out.

Thank you again for your interest in the Victory Seed Company and I look forward to being of service to you in the near future. ~Mike


On Sep 23, 2014 12:11 PM, Victory Seed Company added:

“Rissole,” I am sorry, that I have not replied to you in a manner that you deem as timely. You seem to have much more free time on your hands than I. It is harvest season right now and as a seedsman and farmer, I am actively working to preserve rare seed varieties and trying to beat the fall rainy season. I just don't get much time in the office during this time of year but obviously I needed to take the time to nip this post in the bud.

I attempted to find you in our customer database to see if I could determine why you have chosen to launch this slanderous attack upon myself and the Victory Seed Company. While you hide behind a pseudonym and list a town where you no longer live (this fact based on what you stated in a post made elsewhere on GWD), I have no clue who you are and therefore no idea what the basis of your grievance is in regards to.

However, I can address your attempt at fabricating an issue that is based upon your incorrect interpretation of facts. The simple truths are that (1) no package protection problem exists and (2) the foundation of your whole, four day rant is invalid.

Firstly, this OPTIONAL service that we offer to our customers is just that. Our customers are not stupid and in nearly twenty years of supplying seeds to our gardening supporters, you are the first person to take issue with this service. From your ranting, it is obvious that you do not understand the basic concept about how this type of service works or that there are option available in the marketplace different from the one that you fixated on and incorrectly decided that we are using.

Your initial basis for this whole post was that you somehow determined that because the USPS charges the retail public some published amount for a similar service, that we are somehow defrauding folks because we quote a cheaper rate. If you actually took the time to get to know us, read the experiences that other folks have had, read about our mission, etc., you would know that we are a mission-driven, not fiscally motivated, organization.

The bottom line is that no one has EVER paid us for package coverage and not received their seeds!!! If they had, they would be the ones posting here. So my question to you is, what is your motive for your slanderous behavior? I know for a fact that you have not been defrauded by us! I honestly do not follow your reasoning about how you can interpret our passing a savings on to our gardening friends (customers) as being deceptive!

Yes, Priority Mail and Express Mail include some basic coverage from the USPS. This is very public information. You know this, I know this, and since the USPS advertises it, everybody knows this? In addition, this fact is clearly stated in the checkout process on our site. People that choose to use Priority Mail for their shipping option rarely if ever chooses to purchase the optional coverage. But it is available to those folks that want it for smaller First Class mailings or larger orders exceeding the USPS coverage.

As far as our policies are concerned, every business has them and ours are very typical within the mail-order industry. Most of ours have been adopted from other organizations and evolved over the years as times have changed. It is necessary for organizations and businesses to have them and yes, they are enforceable. We are thankfully not required to have the same policies as the giant “Big Box” stores because if we did, ultimately consumers would be left with only large corporations with which to do business. Small organizations simply cannot absorb the fraud that the large corporations experience (and then pass the losses on to their paying customers).

In your last post you suddenly took on the persona of a lawyer but again, your assumptions make your conclusions very wrong. When you choose to enter into a transaction with any business, you are doing so in agreement with, among other things, contract law and their policies. If you don't like a company's policy, rational people simply contact the company and ask for clarification, or move on and do business elsewhere. But I do want to address the policy that you seem to be taking issue with and perhaps clear it up for you . . .

All business transactions take place between multiple parties, each with their own set of responsibilities. In the case of mail-order, the seller (me) has the responsibility of shipping what was purchased, in a timely manner, at the price that was agreed upon during the sale. The customer is required to provide an address that can safely receive packages and to collect their mail on a timely basis. (By the way, this later bit is why people who do live in areas where mail theft is prevalent often choose to use the optional package insurance.)

To protect ourselves, when we purchase the postage for the packages that we mail, we are also purchasing proof of shipping / tracking. This subsequently provides proof of delivery so that we know when our customers receive their orders. Since this upholds our end of the transactional requirement by proving that the order was mailed and delivered, we never have an issue with credit card charge-backs with folks.

The bottom line is that your attack on the integrity of myself and the hard-earned reputation of the Victory Seed Company are unfounded and very slanderous and I do take this offense both personally and seriously. I know that there are all kinds of people in the world and believe that everyone has the occasional bad day, but I just find it hard to comprehend why someone would handle themselves in the way that you have chosen to.

It is unfortunate that you chose to use Dave’s Garden Watchdog in this manner (and I hope that they address this accordingly). It is actually a great resource for consumers but intended as a forum for sharing thoughts about companies based on real, actual, personal experience. This out-of-control rambling of yours would have best been handled by simply emailing and asking me your questions or expressing your concerns up front. I am always happy to chat with folks about anything and to fix problems that may exist.

Every aspect of our organization is supporter-driven. That is, after nearly two decades of doing this seed variety preservation work, our web site, the varieties that we offer, our policies, and yes, even the optional services that we offer, are all based on customer feedback.

Although in no way constructive, your feedback did prompt me to revisit this package insurance service and I did take the time to clarify the statements about the “Additional Package Insurance” on the checkout page. I will also be working on making the policy even clearer to avoid this issue from arising in the future.

I really do hope that I have addressed all of your concerns and that you have a change of heart and see fit to either delete or change your rating. With the actual facts now aired, at least the gardening public will understand what has transpired here.

With Sincere Regards,

Mike Dunton
Founder, Farmer, President

Positive HawaiianViking
96816
United States (Zone 13a)
(4 reviews)
June 8, 2014
Great! I'm a Victory Seed Company repeat customer, and very pleased with my purchases. There's so much to like about this company: the selection, the philosophy, the attractive prices, the unique packaging. I've never liked tomatoes until I tried Livingston's Magnus tomato sold by Victory Seed Company — a revelatory experience! If you've never liked tomatoes, try this one. Mahalo Victory!
Company representative comment on June 12, 2014:
On Jun 12, 2014 10:13 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

That is awesome that your new favorite tomato is from the collection of one of my heroes, A. W. Livingston. Thank you for taking the time to share here at the Garden Watchdog! ~Mike

Positive Clary
Lewisburg, PA (Zone 6b)
(5 reviews)
May 31, 2014
Excellent selection of fresh heirloom non-GMO seeds.
Company representative comment on May 31, 2014:
On May 31, 2014 12:07 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you so much for sharing, Clary. And thank you also for helping to support our seed variety preservation work with your orders. ~Mike

Positive devinevegan
Igo, CA (Zone 9a)
(12 reviews)
May 13, 2014
Great company with lots of offerings. No hybrids, or treated seeds which is a plus. I ordered a few seeds and was pleased with the quick shipment and quality seed packaging and seeds. Will order from again.
Company representative comment on May 13, 2014:
On May 13, 2014 1:20 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for taking the time to detail your purchase experience from us. We greatly appreciate your kudos and look forward to being of service to you in the future! Have a great gardening season. ~Mike

Positive Lozo
Fort Wayne, IN
(3 reviews)
May 11, 2014
Ordered my seeds on the 6th and got them on the 10th. Well packed and adequate info on the packages for planting and care.. I like!!!
Company representative comment on May 11, 2014:
On May 11, 2014 8:19 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for the feedback, Lozo. I try and cram as much info as possible onto the packets. If you have other questions, there is typically more information on the VictorySeeds.com site and for more regionally specific help, I have been working on a "side project" at http://www.WebGrower.com. Thank you again for sharing your experiences with other gardeners here at the Garden Watchdog and for helping to support our preservation work with your orders. Best Regards, ~Mike

Positive HuguetteAllen
Lumby Rural in BC v0e 2g6
Canada
(1 review)
March 24, 2014
It is 2 years in a row that I order from Victory Seeds and am always pleased at their excellent and fast service and also at the variety of seeds they carry. I had been looking everywhere in British Columbia for Birdfoot Trefoil - a pretty yellow flower that can be used as feed - and could not find it anywhere. What a thrill to see it at Victory Seeds!

Also the 2 types of cabbages - all seasons and Brunswick - I grew last year from Victory seeds turned out really well. I now buy all the seeds I don't save myself from them. It's great to know they are open pollinated and grows organically even though they don't say "certified organic" because so many seeds now contain systemic pesticides.
Company representative comment on May 11, 2014:
On May 11, 2014 8:22 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for your continued support of our seed variety preservation work with your orders and for taking the time to share your comments here. Both are greatly appreciated! Have a great gardening season and we hope to be of service to you for years to come! ~Mike

Positive SHELBYCOREALTOR
Fairfield, AL
(6 reviews)
March 14, 2014
Purchased several tomatos seeds early last year. I failed to plant them and forgot about them. 17 days ago I found them unopened in a sealed plastic bag in a spare bedroom. Since I failed to follow directions to properly store them I didn't expect any thing to grow. I planted 3 different types of seeds. I was surprised that 2 of the 3 all are about 3 inches seedlings. The other type has a a few still trying. The seeds arrived quickly. I will order from them again.
Company representative comment on March 14, 2014:
On Mar 14, 2014 9:47 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

I am glad that you found your seeds and sowed them. I am sure that they are happy to get growing for you :) Thank you again for your support and have a great gardening season. We look forward to being of service to you in the future. ~Mike

Positive suzy_qu3
East Chatham, NY
(8 reviews)
March 10, 2014
I have ordered from these folks for a couple of years. They send out the order quickly and the seeds are good quality. Their catalog has really expanded over the years and you can find a lot of interesting varieties. They have a new rewards system where you earn points for purchasing and commenting. I look forward to earning some store credit. There is some vintage gardening information and seed saving resources available as well. I feel good about supporting this company.
Company representative comment on March 10, 2014:
On Mar 10, 2014 9:52 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for the great review, Suzy_Qu3. I just want to point out that yes, every year we are able to protect and offer more and more seed varieties to gardeners. And we couldn't do this kind of preservation without partners like you that support us from year to year! Thank you. ~Mike

Positive Sunsi
Martville, NY
(2 reviews)
February 3, 2014
I've been doing business with Victory Seeds for the last few years and always receive my order fast, I've never experienced a problem with an order mix up or seeds not germinating. I've put a lot of trust in this company because they've been around so long and my own personal experience confirms why.
Company representative comment on February 3, 2014:
On Feb 4, 2014 12:12 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Sunsi,

I loved your review. It is awesome on a couple of levels.

Firstly, we do operate the Victory Seed Company using old-fashioned values where our word, reputation, and relationships are everything. We know that people have nearly unlimited choices in where to buy seeeds. But seeds are all about faith and trust -- faith that they will actually grow, and trust that they are what the merchant says they are -- and we take both seriously.

And for me, although it seems like just yesterday that we took over the management of our family's farm, as you pointed out, it has been a fair number of years ago. This has only been possible by the support and partnership of folks like you. Thank you again for your kind words and your continued support.

~Mike

Positive appmom
Clemmons, NC
(1 review)
February 3, 2014
Victory Seed has become my go to seed resource. I have been ordering from them for several years. They mail my order quickly and I am always pleased with the seed and the harvest they produce. Their website is easy to navigate and they have a great seed catalog as well!
Company representative comment on February 3, 2014:
On Feb 3, 2014 2:12 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you so much for your review and especially for allowing us to be part of your annual gardening efforts. We greatly appreciate your support and look forward to being of service for many years to come! ~Mike

Positive natrunner
Allentown, PA (Zone 6a)
(2 reviews)
January 31, 2014
Posted on January 31, 2014, updated January 31, 2014
I placed my order online on a Friday night, and I received my seeds on the following Wednesday afternoon - 3 business days to PA! I'm impressed with the prompt filling and mailing of my order as I usually wait longer for orders from other seed companies on the East coast. I really enjoy Oxheart varieties, so I am looking forward to growing (and eating!) your giant pink and yellow Livingston Oxhearts this coming summer.

On January 31st, 2014, natrunner added the following:


Company representative comment on February 1, 2014:
On Feb 1, 2014 8:41 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you so much for the nice post! It is greatly appreciated. We work hard at getting folks' orders filled and sent out quickly and it is always nice when the USPS is quick too . . . even with the bad weather this past week. Thank you again. ~Mike

Positive Les52
Welwyn Garden City
United Kingdom
(1 review)
January 28, 2014
Posted on January 26, 2014, updated January 28, 2014
Posted on January 26, 2014, updated January 26, 2014
Found Victory Seeds on line as I was looking for some unusual things to grow, unusual for the UK that is.

Very clear website with great information and very easy ordering process, especially as I was ordering from outside of the USA
On January 26th, 2014, Les52 added the following:

Seeds arrived in a very timely fashion yesterday, 25th Jan.
Lover the simple and concise instruction on the seed packets.

I will be growing these alongside other open pollinated seeds bought from my regular supplier here in the UK, The Real Seed Company, based in Wales, and some other seed I bought from New Hope Seeds in Tennessee.

I grow on my Allotment (separate land from my House garden) in the town I live in which is about 26 miles north of London...but feels like a different world!!

I will feed back on the success or otherwise....but I am confident.
Really looking forward to saving the seeds from this crop and rest assured, as Chairman of our Allotment Association, that I will spread the gospel according to Victory Seeds here in the UK.

Best wishes

Les
On January 28th, 2014, Les52 added the following:

Mike
Indeed on the challenge.
I am going to grow the Peppers half in a Polytunnel on site and half out once they have got going.

On the Southern Pea. Indeed. But I am going to get them going in the tunnel and plant out later than normal when warmth will be (or not, this is the UK after all) at its peak.

Anyway, good stuff... I will keep you posted.
Company representative comment on January 27, 2014:
On Jan 26, 2014 11:02 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Les,

Thank you so much for your order and for spreading the word about us in your part of the world. It is greatly appreciated.

I am very impressed regarding your commitment to gardening. I live for getting my hands in the soil but driving 26 miles to the garden? Wow!

I am looking forward to your garden report. Some of the varieties that you are trying may be challenging for your area. Your climate is fairly comparable to mine here in Oregon (right?) so 'Peter' peppers and the Southern peas may take some babying.

Thank you again,

~Mike


On Jan 27, 2014 10:12 AM, Victory Seed Company added:

P.S. - Oops . . . I can read . . . I realize that you are saying that your garden is in your town (still no less a commitment). I will blame my mistake on working too late at night and being blurry eyed :) ~Mike

Positive 8209
Louisville, KY (Zone 6b)
(8 reviews)
January 26, 2014
I recently ordered some edamame soybeans from Victory and received them in a very short timeframe. They were well packaged and have good instructions with them. I would recommend this company to my friends. David Tucker 8209.
Company representative comment on January 26, 2014:
On Jan 26, 2014 10:42 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hello David, Soy bean variety preservation is one of our newer areas of focus. I look forward to hearing your garden report. Thank you recommending us to your friends, for telling others about us here on the Garden Watchdog, and for helping to support our seed variety preservation work with your orders. It is all greatly appreciated. Best Regards, ~Mike

Positive RosemaryKelley
Ewing, IL
(1 review)
January 14, 2014
I ordered seeds in 2012 from Victory Seeds as well as another on line heirloom seed company. I had the greatest success from Victory Seeds. I start most of my seeds indoors under grow lights and have had excellent germination rates from Victory Seeds. I am ordering all my seeds from Victory this year. I enjoy the reviews section for each seed listed because I use this info to help me determine what will grow best in my area as well as get ideas for new things I want to grow. I am an avid canner and like any info about canning/freezing that people leave for a particular variety. This year I sat down and left reviews for the seeds I grew last year. Please remember to do this-I know it takes time but it is very helpful for other customers! I have had to e-mail Victory Seeds with questions or help and they answer very quickly and are very friendly.The seeds are shipped quickly and I am a customer for life.
Company representative comment on January 14, 2014:
On Jan 14, 2014 3:48 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for taking the time to not only tell other folks about your experience with us and the performance of the seeds that we offer, but also for sharing all of the great observations about the varieties that you grew. Reviews really do help to make the site even more informative and useful for everyone. Thank you again for your comments and for your support of our seed variety preservation work! ~Mike

Positive SEEDSOFCHANGE14
SEWELL, NJ
(1 review)
January 10, 2014
Hello,
Last year I ordered just a few different kinds of tobacco seed from VICTORY SEED CO knowing very little about either. I started the microscopic seeds indoors and to my surprise they germinated well, thrived and were eventually transplanted outdoors and I was blessed with a full crop of New Jersey Grown Tobacco (yes - you heard that right) which I subsequently dried, cured, rolled and smoked for my 1st all natural home grown NJ cigar as well as NJ pipe tobacco. I quit smoking many years ago and only grew this crop of tobacco simply as a gardiner's experiment for simply proving that it could in fact be done here in NJ. I smoked a few samples to conclude that it was in fact smokeable/enjoyable product. I had such great success with last years tobacco experiment that I came back for a second year and decided to ditch the big name GMO seed companies for all of my vegetable seeds and go strictly with VICTORY SEEDS and pursue plants/vegetables/herbs..etc that I could in fact plant, grow, eat, preserve, enjoy and also do my part to preserve rare and threatened plant varieties (similar to the concept of growing NJ tobacco:)

In an attempt to shake off this winter's cold and think spring, I placed my spring seed order on 1/4/14 with VICTORY SEED CO. It arrived today, 1/10/14 and the entire order of over 100+ seed packets, almost all different varieties for each pack, was 100% spot on correct!

I am thrilled to have such great service, quality seeds that produce quality plants and know that I can count on VICTORY SEEDS for all my vegetable and herb seed needs. I am also happy to know that I am helping VICTORY SEED CO. to preserve rare and threatened plant varieties for all to enjoy.

Happy Gardening To All!
Mark W. from NJ
(I'm gonna need a bigger garden)
Company representative comment on January 14, 2014:
On Jan 14, 2014 4:05 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Wow, Mark! Thank you for the awesome information about your gardening successes this past year and thank you for choosing us as your seed supplier. We will do our best to continue to live up to your praise.

I would also like to thank you for doing your "part to preserve rare and threatened plant varieties." It is a statement that I use a lot but I really want to thank you for actually understanding the important role that gardeners assume in the preservation work. VSC can find, grow, document, and re-release varieties all we want, but it really does take folks like you, choosing to purchase seeds from us, to fund the work. As important, growing them in your garden ensures that the varieties are protected. Seeds sitting in vials in freezers still eventually die. They must all be grown and spread far and wide to really be safe.

Thank you again!

~Mike

Positive Sherilou
Panhandle Gulf Coast, FL (Zone 8b)
(23 reviews)
January 5, 2014
Terrific seeds with some great super-rare varieties! Wonderful customer service. I love that they do so much conservation work as well.
Company representative comment on January 14, 2014:
On Jan 14, 2014 3:50 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for taking the time to share the nice feedback. It is always great to hear from folks that the preservation work that we do is appreciated. Thank you again for supporting our work with your orders and recommendations and we look forward to being of continued service to you. ~Mike

Positive Reversemidas
Vienna, VA (Zone 7a)
(8 reviews)
November 9, 2013
I received my order very prompt with the week. Pretty good shipping from North west to East coast. Very fast. I look forward to trying out the seeds but have to wait for Spring. Yes I have the gardening itch during the winter and start ordering some seeds before the online rush. Each seed pack comes in green colored packet with large type stick-on label that provides name, species and other common names, growing instructions , etc. Also a bit of interesting info about the seed. Very informative on the other side of the seed packet as well about keeping seeds and other website info URL too. I look forward to providing another positive feedback when it's time to sow.
Company representative comment on November 10, 2013:
On Nov 10, 2013 1:28 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you, Reversemidas for taking the time to leave the nice review of our order fulfillment process and packaging. It is always great to hear when our efforts are appreciated! We look forward to being of future service and trust that your spring garden will be great. ~Mike

Positive merryweather
Newberg, OR
(2 reviews)
October 11, 2013
Posted on December 10, 2011, updated October 12, 2013
Posted on January 27, 2009, updated December 10, 2011
Originally I chose Victory Seeds because it was one of the companies operating in Oregon where I live. After growing their seeds for a couple of years, I find myself leaning in their direction when I'm looking for dependability--excellent germination rates, vigorous growth, and uniformity of product true to the original description. Last Fall, In a moment of panic about our economy, I considered how to be best prepared. I decided to order all my basics from Victory so I could at least be assured of having a good garden. They arrived almost immediately and I tucked them away like the little treasures that they are.
On December 9th, 2011, Chamelaux added the following:

I just want to add that the garden was fabulous, as expected. We have the best stock of winter food of anyone I know. I have also added the saving of some of my own seed this year, such a wonderful gift from the earth. Thank you, Victory, for making this kind of seed available that returns true each year. I've just completed another order, including red worms, and I know I'd better get ready because orders from Victory come at lightening speed.
On October 11th, 2013, Chamelaux added the following:

Well, here it is, the harvest of another year and I'm singing the praises of Victory Seed Company with food stored everywhere, much given away, and beans still being picked and dried. I appreciate learning new things from their website and emails. This year they made it so easy to get going on the winter garden that is now growing strong. I'm definitely going to take advantage of the 10% off sale on 2013 seeds. With the fantastic germination rate I've learned to expect from Victory Seeds, they'll be well worth it!!!
Company representative comment on October 11, 2013:
On Oct 11, 2013 9:57 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Chamelaux,

Thank you so much for all of the great feedback. It is always nice to hear that our efforts are appreciated. It is also awesome to hear success stories from folks like you who have committed some of their time towards producing food for their table, as well as others. In this modern age, when governments and large corporations are constantly trying to convince us otherwise, food is still an inalienable right . . . and raising even a small portion of our personal diets keeps us grounded (quite literally :) ). Thank you again for taking the time to share your experiences with other gardeners on this public forum and especially thank you for continuing to support our seed variety preservation work with your orders!

~Mike

Positive Greekgod
Kefalonia (island)
Greece
(1 review)
August 29, 2013
Mike Dunton took time out of his busy day to correct a very stupid mistake I made. It concerned a small order, and I am not a regular customer, but he treated me as a very valued customer all the same. No wonder the company is in DG's Top 30! It is a pleasure doing business with them.
Company representative comment on August 29, 2013:
On Aug 29, 2013 4:43 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Wow, Greekgod! Thank you for the nice feedback. I am always glad to be of service to folks and it is really nice to hear when efforts are appreciated! I look forward to being of service in the future. ~Mike

Positive rosewylde
Siler City, NC
(3 reviews)
July 4, 2013
This company carries some very obscure tomato varieties, and I was able to find the Livingston introductions that I was looking for. They shipped very promptly. In addition the seed envelopes are very informative. Also, their shipping fee is very low--thanks so much!!
Company representative comment on July 4, 2013:
On Jul 4, 2013 2:10 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for taking the time to let others know about your experience with us and also for noticing the work that we do, specifically with tomatoes. It is greatly appreciated.

I am not sure if you saw it on our site, but resurrecting the "Livingston Collection" has been a decades long project (passion) of mine. When I started this work, very few of the varieties were available. But after many years of working with collectors, preservationists and government seed banks, we are now able to offer the collection you found on our site.

Thank you again for supporting our seed variety preservation work with your orders and for your feedback here.

~Mike

Positive nutfieldmom
Allenstown, NH
(1 review)
June 28, 2013
I stumbled apon Victory seed about 10 years ago while trying to locate seeds for Orange King tomato, developed by UNH . I live in NH and couldn't locate any. I got my first catalog and seed order that year. Much to my surprise every seed I started grew! It is still one of my favorite tomatoes (great color, flavor, and dependable production) I have ordered many more tomatoes and hard to locate shell beans from Victory every year since. Every seed always grows. The packaging is outstanding and well labeled.The website is well illustrated with good descriptions. I grew tomatoes this year from 5 yr old seed with the same results. I grow 85 -100 tomato plants a year and the only seeds I cant get from Victory are the few hybrids I grow because of their disease resistance here. It's better to have some mediocre tomatoes than no tomatoes when blight strikes NE. I am trying 6 of the Dwarf Tomato Project varieties and so far they are doing very well.Best seed company hands down!
Company representative comment on June 29, 2013:
On Jun 29, 2013 2:16 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi nutfieldmom! Thank you so much for your kind words. Not only is it cool to hear that the work that we do is appreciated, it is awesome to hear from someone who has been a longtime supporter. We are in this work for the long haul, not short-term gain, which allows us to focus on providing the highest quality seeds that nature and biology allow. Have a great gardening season and we look forward to being "your" seed company for many more years to come. ~Mike

Positive rushheath
Tulsa, OK (Zone 6b)
(1 review)
May 30, 2013
Prompt and excellent service:) I highly recommend ordering from them:):)
Company representative comment on June 14, 2013:
On Jun 14, 2013 2:13 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Rushheath . . . Thank you for taking the time to leave your feedback. Along with your support, it is greatly appreciated! Have a great gardening season. ~Mike

Positive flowergirlmaria
North Zanesville, OH
(1 review)
April 16, 2013
I am very pleased with the varieties available through Victory Seed. Their website is informative and easy to navigate, and the plant descriptions were helpful when it felt like I'd been reading and comparing for hours. My seeds were packaged securely and shipped quickly. I have planted about 8 varieties of vegetables so far and all have germinated well, close to 100%, and are thriving. I will definitely be a repeat customer!
Company representative comment on April 17, 2013:
On Apr 17, 2013 9:30 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi FlowerGirlMaria,

Thank you for your feedback on our web site and our seed quality. Both are areas where we strive to be the best and you noticing is greatly appreciated. Have a great gardening season and we look forward to being of service to you in the future!

Best Regards,

Mike

Positive Willendorf
Palouse, WA
(1 review)
April 13, 2013
My order shipped faster than promised, arriving perfectly packaged, with great attention to detail. The packing slip and rubber bands were used to make a neat package that slid out easily and cleanly.

Seed packets have complete directions on how to raise the plants. In 40 years of gardening I've never seen that much information on a seed packet. Not just starting and thinning directions.

Germination rates are high.

Everything I can see as a customer indicates this company is dedicated to quality.
Company representative comment on April 13, 2013:
On Apr 13, 2013 11:53 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you so much for leaving such a thorough review based on your many years of experience. We work hard at all of those little details that you mentioned and it is always nice to hear when they are appreciated. Thank you again for supporting our seed variety preservation work with your orders and for sharing us with the gardening community. ~Mike

Positive nicomyth
Toccoa, GA
(3 reviews)
April 10, 2013
I actually ordered from this company 2 years ago but I wanted to rate them. I was very pleased with my seed purchases and the germination/health of the seeds was very high. I would recommend them to anyone looking for rare heirlooms or open-pollinated varieties.
Company representative comment on April 10, 2013:
On Apr 10, 2013 11:57 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Nicomyth . . . Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback with other gardeners. We really appreciate your recommendation and your support of our seed variety preservation work with your orders. We look forward to being of service to you in the future. Best Regards, Mike

Positive ohiomj
Bloomingdale, OH
(1 review)
April 9, 2013
I placed an order with victoryseeds.com.

I am very pleased to say the order was here earlier than expected. I had some concerns & left a phone message. They replied within a few days to my email account, exactly as their site indicated they would.

The germination rate of the seeds had to be close to 100%!

I recommend this site to my family/friends and look forward to doing business with them in the future.

Mary
Company representative comment on April 9, 2013:
On Apr 9, 2013 10:09 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Mary,

As a small organization with a limited budget for marketing, we greatly appreciate your word of mouth recommendations to your family and friends and for taking the time to also share us with strangers here on the Garden Watchdog.

You also brought up a good point about communications . . . Since we are small, our resources are stretched thin in every direction. We do not have the staffing to man the phone but we do try and respond to folks' voice and email messages very quickly. Phones are inherently limited by time zones so email tends to be the fastest since I can reply to them at all hours of the day or night.

Thank you again for supporting our seed variety preservation work, financially with your orders, as well as through your recommendations!

Best,

Mike

Positive kattrox
Floyds Knobs, IN (Zone 6b)
(20 reviews)
April 7, 2013
This company has alot of fun varieties of vegetable seed that I have not found elsewhere ie: Jimmy Joe tomato, Truckers Favorite tomato (which has become my favorite too) :) Seeds germinated well this year Muncher Cucumber in one day! Fantastic!
Emails answered very quickly and professionally. I can recommend this company Thanks so much! Keep the fun coming!

Company representative comment on April 8, 2013:
On Apr 8, 2013 8:40 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Kattrox . . . Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback here and for bringing up a great point about gardening . . . . that it should be fun! Gardening Success to You! ~Mike

Positive roger411
East Dundee, IL
(1 review)
April 6, 2013
I STARTED ORDERING FROM VICTORY'S SEED CATALOG ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO. THIS WAS PRIOR TO THEIR INFORMATIVE WEBSITE. I HAVE ALWAYS HAD PROMPT SERVICE AND RECEIVED PERFECT DELIVERIES.
MY RECENT ORDER WAS PLACED ON APRIL 1 AND I RECEIVED IT APRIL 4, JUST IN TIME FOR STARTING MY PLANTS INSIDE AS OUR AREA'S LAST FROST IS MID TO END OF MAY.
EACH SEED PACKET INCLUDES THE NUMBER OF DAYS TO GERMINATION AND THE NUMBER DAYS TO HARVEST; PLANTING INSTRUCTIONS AND A DESCRIPTION OF THE PLANT'S PRODUCE.
SEEDS ARE WELL PACKAGED AND EACH SEED GROWS. VIRTUALLY 100% GERMINATION. I AM HAPPY WITH THE SEEDS AND SERVICE.
Company representative comment on April 6, 2013:
On Apr 6, 2013 9:16 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Roger411,

Thank you so much for the positive feedback and for helping to support our seed variety preservation work this past decade. We feel honored to have such an amazing group of gardening friends, like you, that appreciate what we do and choose to entrust their gardens to Victory Seeds®. This is our motivation for working so hard to get orders out quickly and to provide the highest quality of seeds possible. Thank you again!

Mike

Positive cramblettgranny
friendly, WV (Zone 6a)
(2 reviews)
April 4, 2013
I just received my order from Victory Seed Co. I am very pleased with everything I grew out from my 2012 order and I am certain this year's selections will be just as good. They kept me informed by email as to the status of my order and I received it in a very timely manner, especially since I did not order as early as I should have. This is a great company.
Company representative comment on April 4, 2013:
On Apr 4, 2013 5:10 PM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you so much for taking the time to let folks know how your ordering experience with us went. I just want to say that we have learned over the years that communication and keeping folks informed is so important. Thank you also for your positive report from the 2012 season and we hope that you have a great 2013!

Best Regards,

Mike

Positive crazyquilter
Tualatin, OR
(1 review)
March 26, 2013
I found Victory by luck last season. I participate in a community garden and my veggies were the best I had grown in 4 years of participation. I liked the high germination rate, the intense flavor of the veggies and the opportunity to grow varieties that I had not seen before. The most impressive results came from the Cylindra beets, Tenderette green beans and Sugar Ann pea pods. I will never buy seeds from anyone else. I am trying some heirloom flower seeds this year as well. In addition to a premium product, the service is prompt and friendly.
Company representative comment on March 26, 2013:
On Mar 27, 2013 5:14 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi CrazyQuilter,

I lover your username :) Thank you for the nice feedback and I am glad that you had a great garden last year in spite of the challenging weather we had around here last year. Hopefully this summer will be even better! Thank you also for supporting our seed variety preservation work with your orders. I look forward to hearing how your garden does this year.

Best Regards,

Mike

P.S. - If you feel so inclined, you can help make our web site even more informative for folks by going to the product pages at VictorySeeds.com for the varieties that really did well for you and leaving your feedback there. You can also contribute the same info here at Dave's Garden in the PlantScout section.


On Mar 27, 2013 8:11 AM, Victory Seed Company added:

Man . . . I have to proof posts better! I was not being fresh . . . first sentence should read, "I love your username" :)

Signed, A Blushing,
Mike

Positive Cjclemens
WHITE HEATH, IL
(1 review)
March 18, 2013
Ordered several varieties of peppers and tomatoes - prices were reasonable, shipping was fast, and I'm happy to report near 100% germ on everything planted. Victory Seeds has good product and great service.
Company representative comment on March 18, 2013:
On Mar 19, 2013 1:47 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Cjclemens . . . Thank you so much for sharing your feedback here. Your comments really are appreciated and along with your orders, help support the seed variety preservation work that we do. Have a great gardening season. ~Mike

Positive Amoena
Nashville, TN
(10 reviews)
March 16, 2013
Purchased four packages of heirloom tomato seeds from Victory last week, and already I'm delighted with the results.
After experiencing poor germination and poor seedling vigor from the seeds I received from two tomato specialty companies, I decided to check DavesGarden for alternatives. I'm very glad I did! Their top reviews are certainly deserved. The seeds were shipped quickly, and I have nearly 100% germination after 4 days. Great job guys!
Company representative comment on March 16, 2013:
On Mar 17, 2013 4:35 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Hi Amoena . . . I am glad that you found and consulted Dave's Garden Watchdog and that it led you to us. GWD is a great resource for gardeners. Thank you also for taking the to make GWD even better by sharing the experience you had with using Victory Seeds®. As a small organization with limited advertising budget, we rely on word-of-mouth recommendations like yours.

Regarding seed quality and germination . . . thank you for noticing :) Obviously, biology plays a big role, but we have worked very hard over the years to perfect our processes so that we can offer folks seeds that typically exceed the set standards.

Thank you again for supporting our seed variety preservation work with your orders and for your positive feedback! ~Mike

Positive brad85
Sanger, CA (Zone 9a)
(2 reviews)
March 14, 2013
I found Victory Seeds to have a great selection of heirloom seeds. I placed my order and the seeds shipped within the time frame they stated and arrived soon after. The seeds are well packaged with planting recommendations on each package. I am very pleased with my experience. I suspect I will be a regular shopper with them. They did their part, now I have to do mine and get out in the garden. Thank you Victory Seeds.
Company representative comment on March 14, 2013:
On Mar 15, 2013 4:19 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with other gardeners. We greatly appreciate it. Have a great gardening season and email me if you have any questions or if I can be of further service. Best Regards, ~Mike

Positive Giulianna
Fairfield, CA (Zone 9b)
(2 reviews)
March 11, 2013
Posted on September 23, 2012, updated March 11, 2013
Posted on September 17, 2012, updated September 24, 2012
This was my first time to order heirloom and open-pollinated seeds through mail order. I usually find most of what I want in my local stores. However, because I must container garden currently and I always do purely organic gardening...I wanted more heirloom and open-pollinated seed options. Also, I am looking to stock up on seed and save my own, for the sake of rough economic times and little faith in our politicians. I have been learning to save seeds for the last few years and thus far, it has been quite successful. :)

I am not certain as to how I stumbled onto Victory Seeds, but after reading reviews here and then finding some helpful info on their site, I chose to order some seeds for my winter garden outside and my small indoor garden I will be attempting this year to keep us in fresh produce.

The seeds arrived promptly and so far they seem to be germinating very well, just planted in my homemade mixture of potting soil and put in small starter containers out in my backyard this September.

I am now anxiously awaiting my second order from them. I did also order from another company some seeds I could not find at Victory. I will give more reviews as the seeds come in and I plant them. Thank you to all those responsible for these reviews! What a blessing.
On September 24th, 2012, Giulianna added the following:

Update: Received my 2nd order of seeds promptly, again. One thing I love about this seed company is they put the seeds inside ziploc style bags inside the seed pouch. Also they give you info on the proper technique for keeping your seeds alive. :)

My first order: The seeds are germinating beautifully. Living in Northern California, I have planted all of them into pots outdoors and they are coming up beautifully.

My second order: The ones for both my indoor and outdoor winter garden are now planted, waiting for germination, but I have no doubt they will.

I plan to order my spring/summer garden seeds through this company since they have given me excellent service and I share about them on Facebook, because I have friends who are now interested in organic gardening too.


On March 11th, 2013, Giulianna added the following:

Well, here it is...almost Spring. I have again ordered seeds and they showed up promptly. I planted them and must say the germination rate is EXCELLENT compared to packages of seeds I bought in the past from other companies.

Another PLUS about this company is they give advice based on scientific studies and/or personal experience on how to get seeds to germinate and thrive.

They are very friendly and make their customers feel like extended family. A wonderful operation and I am so grateful for not only Victory Seed Company, but also Dave's Garden for helping me find reputable companies in a tough economy. I will gladly continue to help support their work to help preserve plant varieties (heirloom and open-pollinated) through my purchases and word of mouth to my family and friends.
Company representative comment on January 5, 2013:
On Jan 6, 2013 5:51 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you for the awesome report, Giulianna. Makes me a bit "homesick." Although I was around our family's farm where I now make home here in Oregon off and on through my childhood, and have spent more years here than any other one place, I grew up in Petaluma and really, really miss the climate down in your neck of the woods. Thank you so much for your support and for sharing us with your gardening friends here and on Facebook. It is greatly appreciated! ~Mike

Positive forestolexa
Colebrook, CT
(1 review)
March 8, 2013
Posted on December 6, 2012, updated March 8, 2013
Great Company to deal with!

Fast Shipping, seeds are clean and packaged well. All of the seed that I purchased germinated and produced great vegetables, I highly recommend this company.

Bill O
On March 8th, 2013, forestolexa added the following:

I tried Victory Seeds after a friend of mine suggested them several years ago. Wow, what a great company to order from. Excellent seed quality, we grew some beautiful vegetables last year. The Blue Hubbard Squash really was not only huge but tasty as well.
Company representative comment on January 5, 2013:
On Jan 6, 2013 6:14 AM, Victory Seed Company responded with:

Thank you, Bill. Where most folks tend to comment on our service, I am so glad that you noticed our seed. I have personally been a mail-order gardener since I was a small kid (and that goes back a lot of decades!). I have seen a lot of seed in my days and it always amazed me some to the "junk" I would get from companies . . . Even big named, nationally known ones. Actually it still does amaze me. Of course I cannot name names, but some of the stuff that I have bought looks like it just came out of the field and never went through a seed cleaner! Anyway, when starting this organization, part of our fundamental mission was established to only offer the highest quality seed possible. So along with a focus on accuracy, we always try to exceed germination standards. Thank you again for noticing and sharing. ~Mike

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