I ordered 2 green giant trees. They arrived large, lush, thriving trees both are around five foot tall. I had two phone conversations with a very nice sales lady. About the order and shipping times. She was very nice and easy to work with. I am very pleased with this company. The prices of the plants are good and the shipping rates are great compared to a few of the top rated companies on the top ten listed in the watchdog section. Some have put shipping prices so high, as much or more then the plant. I can no longer buy from them. I am glad to see a company like this still offering good products, service and prices. I will order again.
I ordered 2-4 plants each of TheBotanyShop’s American Elderberry cultivars, in quart pots. As I was ordering over $100 of plants, with shipping at $50, I made a phone order and asked if they would work with me for shipping. The lady who helped me knew pretty much what they had in stock and double checked everything. She was willing to work with me on shipping, so I made several changes - I was NOT an easy cutomer. Michele, the lady answering the phone, handled everything with patience.
I made the order on Friday, and they shipped on Tuesday. This was important as we'd had a cool week and temperatures started climbing. If they had delayed the shipping it would have been a disaster, and it almost was as the UPS man left the box in the sun when there was shade not two feet away. The plants were expertly packed, and now 4 days after getting them they are all doing very well. They are all exactly as advertised, and are just what I wanted. One label was missing- but it was not a problem as not only are the plants labeled, but the plants of the same type were packed beside each other and the pots have a color-coded rim that makes it pretty easy to figure out which cultivar it
I bought elderberry starts from Mike Shade of Botany Shop and found him very knowledgable and passionate about his stock. Upon transplanting the stock that I bought, I found wonderful root balls, just the right size not root bound nor wimpy, I will purchase from this guy again without reserve.
Ordered 50 Thuja Green Giant trees. They were supposed to be "oversize" quarts 24" to 30" tall. I measured them and couldn't find one under 30". In excellent condition upon arrival. They were very well packaged and the soil was still moist upon arrival at my house (4 days after shipping). Communication was okay. A few days after I placed my order someone contacted me with an expected ship date. The date passed by almost a week so I contacted them to check if the trees shipped. I was informed at that time that they would ship that day. It worked for me because I wasn't ready to plant yet anyway. I'm very happy with my order and recommend giving Botany Shop a try.
Purchased 25 tiny little peat pot Thuja's spring of 2009, then 25 of the same the following spring. Iv'e lost a total of 2 trees, but they seemed sickly when I planted them and I'd placed them at the end of a row just in case - which was a good idea as I don't have holes in my long rows at least. Most are now as tall as I am, some are taller by at least a foot, I have at least 4 that are kind of runty but are still green and if not thriving at least trying, one of them had a root attack by moles which I was a little late on pounding down so the roots probably dried up a bit during a critical hot spell and zapped the poor bugger. All in all these Thuja's are darn tough considering they have been planted on top of an unprotected hill in central MO with brutal sun, wind, heat, that brutal cold winter of 2010/11 and not a whole lot of attention by me. As for the business, heck they were pretty nice. Delivered healthy enough trees on a timely basis, took a call for some advice nice and polite. Price is excellent and product is as described 'One tough fast growing tree'. I did note that two of my healthy ones had a bit of brown out at the terminals this year (2012) - I finally inspected them and found droves of what I can only call 'schmidt bug cocoons' (or rhymes with Schmidt anyway) hanging all over the affected areas. It gave me great satisfaction to pick them off manually and give them what for, and those two trees are currently bouncing back nicely. I'd buy from this business again.
On Jun 18, 2012, scottspatti Oroville East, CA wrote:
I had been researching the "Green Giant" Thuja for a few months before I decided to order from The Botany Shop. I ordered them last year (07/2011) they (21 quart sized trees) arrived in beautiful condition. The directions enclosed were extremely helpful, and followed to a "t" have resulted in trees that tripled in size.
The zone in California where we live is 7b and pretty much the pacific northwest borderline for these little guys to stand a chance. I am extremely impressed with not only the customer service from The Botany Shop but my beautiful Thujas. I just ordered 30 more this morning, and if I could get some extra help (lots of cobble in the soil to clear out), I would order 100. Thanks again for the beautiful trees.
On Feb 29, 2012, pierretr1971 STRAWBERRY PLAINS, TN wrote:
I just recieved my 4-1gallon Goji Berry plants plus the 2 pollinators and I am very impressed on the excellent condition they arrived! I have not have had such luck with (other) nursery mail order companies. I am happy to see how large the plants are for the price point with not a single leaf broken or damaged. I have not been able to get (the other) mail order Goji Berry plants (microscopic in comparison) to live long enough to know how well the Goji Berry plant will grow in The Smoky Mountains. I am hoping this year with a little care, luck, water and plenty of sunshine to have a small crop of fresh Goji Berries. Best Wishes to all and happy gardening!!
On Feb 24, 2012, Greenthumb88 Chesterfield Court House, VA wrote:
I had originally ordered my Goji berries from someone else who never shipped them to me, and that's why I came to The Botany Shop because its a legitimate store. You can go to map quest and zoom in and see their green houses, and call their number and personally speak with them. They answered all of my questions and gave me great information about the goji's as well as the triple crown black berry I ordered. The plants arrived the next week, all of them in excellent condition. I cannot express how happy I am to be able to find a trust worthy source online to order from. Purchasing from The Botany Shop gave me peace of mind because I knew they were experts in the field. When I sent out emails I received prompt replies within hours. I want to personally thank The Botany Shop for keeping up their end of the deal, and I will continue to purchase through these guys!!!
On Jun 21, 2011, DrQuool Rancho Cordova, CA wrote:
I ordered a couple of small "Lavender Twist Covey Redbuds" during the winter. They didn't blossom in the spring, so after a couple of e-mail messages to the Botany Shop they promptly sent two healthy replacements.
They included planting instructions with our order. Their pricing was very good; in part because they offered an option of the VERY small trees to make them much more affordable.
On Jun 16, 2011, cramsey1 Salt Lake City, UT (Zone 6b) wrote:
Posted on May 11, 2011, updated June 16, 2011
Posted on September 23, 2010, updated May 11, 2011
I purchased 6 Polka Raspberry plants from Botany Shop Garden on Sept 16th. I received notice that they were shipped on Sept 21st and they arrived today Sept 23 in the morning via Fedex. The plants were large in 6 in pots and well rooted. They were packaged well and in great condition. They had all been treated with a special chemical to prevent crown gall. I was most impressed. I have paid more for bare root plants from other vendors and been disappointed with the results. These plants will be great. I called the Botany Shop Garden to ask a couple of questions after the plants arrived and was pleased to speak with a live person who was courteous and knowledgeable. It was nice not get a voice mail with a promise to have someone call me back later which frequently means never. I like the service and quality of this provider. I wish they had more of the plants I needed. I would use them more often. However, if there is anything they have that I need, I will be ordering from them again.
On May 11th, 2011, cramsey1 changed the rating from positive to negative and added the following:
I was initially very pleased with my order that arrived in late September. However, by October 15th 4 out of the 6 plants I ordered looked dead. I sent pictures of the plants and an email to the company with my concerns. The sent an email back saying that the plants might have just gone dormant for the year and to get back to them in spring if they did not grow and they would replace them. I have sent 3 emails in the past 2 months and have not had a single response back form the company. I know that people can be busy, but I am not impressed with their customer service and their guarantee is worthless if they do not honor it. My original order stated that the plants should be shipped at the appropriate time for my area. I am in zone 6b. If the plants should not have been planted so late in the season then they should not have been sent until spring this year. I am not happy. I am now out 3 of the 6 plant and have had to go to Berries Unlimited to get my Polka Raspberry plants. I cost me extra, but they were large and very healthy plants sent in the spring. On June 16th, 2011, cramsey1 changed the rating from negative to positive and added the following:
On June 8th, I received an email from Botany Shop stating that their computer had crashed and that they had lost my email. They also stated that they would replace the 3 plants I had lost last year. The plants arrived today and they were large, well packaged with excellent root systems. I am pleased with them for honoring their guarantee and the quality of the plants I received. I have changed my rating from negative to positive. I will buy from them again and give them another chance. Everyone can have a bad day.
My order consisted of 8 green giants and 6 double red knockout roses. The order arrived quickly and was well packaged with complete instructions. My roses ended up very pink rather than red, but after several interesting emails discussing how pink pink was they were replaced. Very happy as a whole. Will order from again.
On May 22, 2011, AnitTina Eustis, FL (Zone 9a) wrote:
I ordered Goji Berry plants from them they were fantastic. I also learned you need two different types to make them set fruit. The plants were exquisite really nice. I have 3 different types of Goji's now the one from Gurney's has very thin leaves and each of these has a different leaf type. I hope I like the berries I've never tried them they just looked interesting to me.
Posted on May 9, 2011, updated May 15, 2011
Don't do it! Very poor customer service. If everything arrives in good shape, you may be ok. If something is damaged in shipping, it's another story.
Purchased two trees from them recently and one of the trees had the main stem broken as well as one of the major branches. Their response to my email was just to cut them off and basically live with it. I was purchasing this tree as a gift for someone else, and it certainly was not something I would want to give someone as a gift. I tried to explain this to them on the phone, but was rudely cut off mid sentence and told I had to ship it back to them as my expense!
On May 15th, 2011, betsymcl changed the rating from negative to positive and added the following:
They did email me back and gave me an option of having a new tree sent to me or a refund of my money. I only wish that the initial people you talk to in customer service were trained in providing helpful customer service.
On May 11, 2011, vparmle Granite City, IL (Zone 6b) wrote:
Just discovered this watchdog page and wanted to add a very positive comment about the Botany Shop orders I placed last year. Ordered a Forest Pansey Redbud tree and knockout roses. All arrived quickly and in excellent condition and all are doing beautifully. The redbud is 5 ft, healthy and well-branched; the knockout roses are blooming profusely as I write this. Given the crazy weather and seasons we experience in the St. Louis region (hot and humid summers, tornadoes, hailstorms, cold winters), the Botany Shop's plants are perfect for my garden as they are grown under similar conditions and in the same zone. As someone who has been ordering plants via mail for decades, I strongly recommend new garderners order from nurseries either in the same zones or relatively close by for optimum plant shipping and successful growth.
I purchased 15 24 inch Thuja Giant trees May 2010 from Botany Shop. They arrived as promised and in excellent condition. I planted according to their instructions and watered them almost everyday the first summer and covered with straw for winter. These trees are now 63 to 73 inches tall at the leader and 3 to 3.5 feet across Needless to say I am extremely pleased and I found the people at Botany Shop to be very helpful and professional. These are the fastest growing evergreen I have ever planted.
The 3 Jefferson Elms I received from Botany Shop this spring have grown like crazy! They arrived 2' tall. The tallest is now in late September 6' tall ... the shortest 5'6." We desperately need shade on the west side of our house due to the loss of mature pines to 3 ice storms in 8 years. Looks like we won't have to wait too long to get it!
On Sep 2, 2009, geisl Ontario, NY (Zone 6a) wrote:
I ordered 13 Green Giants about 2 feet tall and planted them according to the instructions provided. They were received in excellent condition and appeared healthy. They did brown slightly during the first few weeks, but then came back to a beautiful green color. They are already showing growth of 6 inches after only a few months.
I also found their website very informative with a lot of information on the trees.
Super happy with my Ellen butterfly plant I received today,just a few days after ordering! Its a nice size plant and looks nice and healthly with a few buds ready to bloom!! I will surely order from the Botany Shop again,thanks for the great service and it was a pleasure to do business with your company!
I purchased and planted 40 18" Thuja's from Botany Shop in October of 2007. I setup the drip line, mulched, used landscape fabric and have fertilized. I have an extreme amount of clay, and believe that it has taken the trees time to root. I struggled through the winters keeping the trees straight with the harsh winds we experience, and staked them multiple times.
That said, I am now seeing huge growth, and these trees are between 53 and 63" tall. I just removed the stakes and they are very solid. I didn't lose one of them, and they all look very healthy.
I bought 4 Giant Green Thujas from The Botany Shop and received beautiful trees (shrubs) within a week. I had bought some from another company that I was really pleased with but when I needed more they were sold out , so I thought I would give The Botany Shop a try, not only were the Giant Greens bigger but they were also cheaper. I'll need more soon and will be getting them there. Great company!
After reading all the positive reviews here and needing a 1,500 foot long privacy border, I confidently placed an order with Botany Shop.
The 300 green giants that I ordered last week arrived promptly and in perfect health. I spent about 8 hours total planting my new trees, and I can now confirm that each and every single tree was in excellent condition and larger than was advertised.
Botany Shop is a great company with excellent communication, perfectly fast service, and a product that met my expectation. If only all companies in the world were as reputable as Botany Shop. I hope you guys stay in business for many years to come. You deserve all the success you get.
I purchased 70 Thuja Green Giants (8-11") in Jan/Feb 08. They arrived 2-3 days after I placed the order, neatly packed, with the dirt held in place around the root with a biodegradable bag. I had a couple of questions (sent via email) about planting that were answered within 2 days (great service).
I was not able to plant them for about two weeks due to my work schedule and placed them in a shallow pan with water. I finally got them planted. They immediately started showing bright green growth. I will definitely order from the Botany Shop again (I still need about 50 more).
i bought 25 green giants. 16 to 18 inch in peat pots.
when they arrived at my home in perfect condition i was impressed. when my wife looked at them, she was even more impressed.she kept saying how beautiful they are.
if u are looking to buy some thujas(green giants). i would definetly buy them at the botany shop
25 ggs for 75 bucks including delivery (3 dollars a piece)
sais it all. ty botany shop
mark moore fernley nv
On May 19, 2007, divin1ty Cave Junction, OR wrote:
We ordered 33 of the Thuja Green Giants at 18-24 inches each. My wife and I had done a lot of research before deciding to order from the Botany Shop and boy are we glad we did. They arrived packed in a box with popcorn surrounding them to protect them while in route. Each tree had a clear plastic bag neatly tied around each separate container and you could still see the condensation, proving they were sealed to keep the tree moist until we could get them in the ground. Every single one of the trees looked great with a dark green color, all standing tall and upright. I quickly got each one planted into the ground and began soaking them. Being that we are on the west coast in Southern Oregon, the ship time and the time it took for me to get them all in the ground, they started going into shock and turning brown. I had followed all the instructions to a “T”, so I gave the Botany Shop a call. They asked me a lot of questions and we determined that even with me soaking them as much as I was, they were still drying out, mainly due in part to the fast drying clay soil we have. We were already using a slow release fertilizer so I did not want to add anything more but water. They proceeded to instruct me to cut around 2 inches off of the top of each tree, as this helps them become bushier at the bottom through their life and might encourage their growth and help with my current issue. I soaked the trees immensely even thought we were already soaking them quite a bit. Basically in the morning and at night to keep the soil and roots wet. And I have to say after one week now they are starting new growth at the bottom on quite a few of the trees and are looking much, much better. If it was not for the Botany Shop I would have probably lost them. Because they dried out I am not sure of a handful of them, but the Botany Shop extended the guarantee an additional 30 days to see if we can’t get them to live first and if not then replace them. All I have to say is, “WOW”. We love Thuja’s and our experience has been excellent in dealing with the Botany Shop. They are very friendly and helpful and desire nothing more than to see you succeed. One recommendation is I would buy the trees at least 18-24 inches tall, because going much smaller, depending on your circumstances, can prove to be difficult in seeing great results unless you are excellent at caring and nurturing your trees. If we would have bought them smaller I do not think they would have survived through this. The Botany Shop is highly recommended and rates high on our list of mail order for plants and trees. Trust me, we ordered from Spring Ridge Nursery, Autumn Ridge Nursery and one other I cannot remember and we had pretty poor results, especially from Autumn Ridge. Order from the best of the best, order from the Botany Shop.
On May 8, 2007, WigglyPaw Hastings, MI (Zone 5b) wrote:
I took a chance and ordered 100 bare root (no guarantee???)
Thuja plicata 'Green Giant's. They arrived packed up in foam peanuts and sphagnum moss about the roots in a plastic supermarket bag and then with saran wrapped around the root section also.
The little dears had been predrenched with JB spray,
and their roots were full of nodules of the stuff.
Half of my order was nice and fresh, large and full, with root structure too big for my 5" pots. The other half of my order was puny. Little dried plants, barely with energy, a few miserable roots. If I was a betting woman, I wouldn't put money on the puny ones. Why would they send me two different sets of trees from such a large order? If they couldnt fufill the order all of one piece, then they should have contacted me.
I immediately potted them all up in a very friable peat/black top soil/clay/sand/vermiculite mix, and have them on the north side of our barn till they get over the tp shock, and begin (HOPEFULLY)
to show signs of life and growth.
Two years ago I bought two Valley Forge Elms from this company and I was very happy with them. this time I feel like I got short changed and they figured I wouldn't say anything, and that I also
took them bareroot, so they could pawn off some slips that really weren't ready on me. I mean, 100 trees is a nice order isn't it?
I would have sent my very best and extra, as I do with my chicken
eggs to my customers.
On May 22nd, 2007, WigglyPaw changed the rating from neutral to negative and added the following:
I was requested by the owner of Botany shop to send pictures
of the shriveled, one root plants and pictures of the other
grown on healthy plants. I did this. I have not heard anything,
despite replying in a timely manner to his request. If anything,
I would have hoped for more communication, not total
disregard. I have been polite and non accusatory in this
whole dealing, I was not even asking for replacements of the
50 undersized and non grown on plants. I wonder what
happened . Oh well. Lots more fish in the sea, why waste
my time with this one?
*Note: I find it strange that there is a glowing rebuttal to my
first neutral comments from another customer. amazing
coincidence! On May 22nd, 2007, WigglyPaw changed the rating from negative to positive and added the following:
At last! mike called me and he was so apologetic, his company
has been so busy, that business dealings have been behind.
He said his was a quality company, and I believe him. He will send
50 grown on Thujas out next week to replace those that are
miniscule. I told him it was not even necessary, but he insisted, I had
really just wanted him to know that there was a problem with the order: The Botany shop will correct the order and that is great
customer service. Will I do business with Botany shop again? You betcha I will. On June 20th, 2007, WigglyPaw added the following:
Mike, the owner, made sure to send me some new healthy and lustrous Green Giant seedlings. I have them all planted, and they are looking fine. They have made it through a 2 week drought, and excessive heat, and now another 2 week drought is coming on. I do water them when I can, and they are responding well. Good stock makes for healthy plants! Thank you The Botany Shop for caring and ensuring your plants are good.
On Apr 11, 2007, slfeldred Joplin, MO (Zone 6a) wrote:
I received good quality plants, soft-touch holly and hydrangeas, that are doing very well. Prices are a bit more than at other places, but worth it. Gina & Robert are extremely helpful and friendly, even though not all are. Would definately patron again. Thanks!
My wife and I live in a suburb of Chicago that has been devastated by Dutch Elm Disease. Over the past five years, our neighborhood has lost a majority of the American Elms that once formed an umbrella effect over our street. I promised my wife that at some point in our lives we would own another American Elm. After visiting their website, I spoke with Mike Shade, owner of The Botany Shop about the Princeton Elms that have been tested to be 96% resistant to DED that they had for sale. The Botany Shop had several larger Princeton Elms available; however transporting the tree was a major issue since most large courier services will not ship trees and shrubs over a certain size. With few if any other options available, we decided to drive down to Joplin, rent an open, 5’ X 9’ U-Haul and bring one back with us. The owner (Mike Shade) and his employees Robert and Donna – to name a few, were some of the nicest people (not to mention knowledgeable) that either one of us has ever met. Mike and Donna helped us wrap the tree and secure it to the trailer for a 562 mile journey back to Chicago. The tree made the trip just fine and is happily planted in our back yard right now outside our family room window. I would highly recommend The Botany Shop!!! Thanks again Mike, Donna and Robert for a wonderful experience!!!
I ordered 50 bareroot Thuja trees and if my neighbor hadn't set his lawn on fire all of them would have survived. They were big and lush when they arrived Beautiful plants. I wish they still sold them barerooted.
I ordered 100 of the 18-24 inch Thuja Green Giants the last week in April. Since this was such a large order I was told that it would be approximately 4 weeks before they would ship because several trees needed to mature. I received them on time and was amazed at how professionally they were packaged. The trees were planted around our property to be used as a privacy fence and wind break as per The Botany Shop's instructions and a drip system was installed a short time later. I am happy to report that all of the trees are doing well and thriving. The western Kansas summers consist of little rain, high winds and 100 degree temperatures. If these trees can make it here I am convinced they will grow anywhere. The folks at the Botony Shop are the best I've ever dealt with and I will gladly return to do business with them in the future. Thanks Botony Shop
I am an extremely satisfied customer! First, let me start by saying I NEVER planted anything in my life. When our newly constructed home was complete we needed to put up a privacy screen. After many hours of surfing the net, we came across the Thuja Green Giants offered by the Botany Shop. We ordered 30 of the 18-24" and 25 of the bare root. Once we received them we temporarily planted them in pots until we had a chance to actually put them in the ground. The staff was extrememly helpful when I called for planting instructions. We planted, mulched, watered and held our breath. Low and behold, 2 1/2 months later these trees have grown 1 1/2 feet and filled out unbelievably. They are so green! They are in direct sunlight ALL day and we water them once a day with a garden hose if you can believe that. I added osmocote to them when they first went into the ground. I am so pleased! Not one tree (out of 55) showed any brown or any sort of discoloration. By the way, we live in zone 5 in Pennsylvania. I had to share my excitement with all of you. My first planting experience was a charm -- thanks to the Botany Shop. Also, the Manager was so helpful to me on the phone when I called to ask about any special care in preparation for the winter. Thanks Botany Shop!
I guess I would have an advantage to live just a couple of miles from Botany Shop. They have some of the most beautiful, healthy and reasonably priced plants and the customer service is a WOW! Today the owner was so helpful and yes we came home with some new and different plants.We also have purchased mulch from them and we have never lost any plants, They always have ideas for new gardens. I always learn something new when we visit. Thank You Botany Shop
Nervously ordered 14 of the 5-6 foot Thujas that were delivered, as promised, on June 12 to Northfield, Ohio. Couldn't believe the condition or the size of the trees-- so much more than I had imagined! The staff at the Botany Shop are all so helpful, and never make me feel that my questions are insignificant. It's been a little over a month since they have been in the ground and I can't believe how much new growth has taken place. I can't wait till next year to see what they will be like after a whole year of growth. Thanks Botany Shop and Michelle--it's nice to see that customer service is not a thing of the past!
I ordered 20 of the Thuja Gree Giants. I recieved them the day I was told they'd be here, and I was AMAZED at the condition they were in when I received them. I myself was very unsure about ordering trees online, but these were carefully packed in peanuts, and the pots were still very moist. They were perfect. I had to contact them once or twice with questions, and the girl was very plesant and very helpful. I would gladly do business with this company anytime.
On August 14th, 2006, HUTCH2 added the following:
Of the 20 trees I ordered, 2 of them did not fare so well. I'm sure the 100 degree weather was a factor. I conversed with the Botany Shop more than once. I was told things to do, and they didn't help. I emailed pictures to them, and they replaced both of the trees plus gave me an extra. Every time I talked to anyone there, they were very helpful & pleasant to talk to. Thank you so much Botany Shop!! You are a pleasure doing business with, and I'd recommend you to anyone.....
I bought over 600 dollars worth of Green Giants from this company, about a week after planting some of the plants were in pretty bad shape so I called the company for some advice. The women I talked to said the manager used to live in my area and would call me back "soon". No call back. Next day I called again, talked to the same women. She said the manager had "stepped" out but would call me right back. No call back. Next day I wrote an e-mail to the company asking for replacements for the plants that had died per their "30 day guarantee". No Response. End of story and end of my doing business with this outfit.
On July 13th, 2006, JerryO changed the rating from negative to positive and added the following:
Had a good conversation with the owner of the Botany Shop and discussed the problems I'm having with the plants which may be due to altitude. They are sending out replacements for the three that have died plus 2 extra.
We recently ordered 12 Green Giants from you and want to let you know how happy we are. The ground in Pa. is full of shale, rocks & boulders of every size & our planting area is right where the rain water runs off so we were concerned that the plants would wash out or just die from too much water. After receiving your assurances that they would be fine we went ahead and ordered 12 trees. They arrived 1 day ahead of schedule with no shipping damage and in very healthy condition. Clearing the area was difficult because in addition to the large rocks the dirt is compacted. We worried all the while we were clearing but the trees are planted and are doing well, new growth appeared in a few days. Your planting directions are clear & concise and were a huge help. Our neighbors are now watching the trees and are thinking of buying some themselves. We will not hesitate to purchase from you folks again.
On Jun 8, 2006, Mary1NYS Sherrill, NY (Zone 5a) wrote:
Recd today an 8 or so inch weeping redbud tree and a small Knockout Rose- shipped on Monday and recd on Thursday. The little tree is healthy and staked and leafed out with the soil still moist. The rose is also fine and is even in bloom with one small rose that didnt even get disturbed during shipping. Great Packaging.