I ordered 24 thyme plants to use as steppers between the stepping stones in my porch. It took over a month for them to arrive. They were in plastic bags, dried up and dead. I always throw away the packing and keep the packing slip. They would only process a return if I would send them a copy of my credit card bill to prove that I paid, and a printed letter (not an email) with "I no longer have the original shipping label." as the first sentence. I gave them the info via email, telling them I wouldn't send anyone a credit card statement, that their records showed that I paid.
These people sent me dead plants, with a return/refund policy so cumbersome I couldn't get my money back. After reading this column, I'm glad it was only $23.98.
In April of 2012 I ordered $109 worth of plants from Richard Owen catalog, What I received was plants that were almost dead, brown leaves, dry sticks, About 9o% of them died after planting, I am an experienced Gardener, and have ordered from several other catalogs over the years.
When I tried to return the dead plants and ask for my money back, they did not refuse, but they just kept asking for more information, and asking for labels that I had already sent them.
As a result they never sent my money back. YOU SHOULD NEVER ORDER FROM THIS COMPANY! I wish I had looked up this website, so I see all the Negative comments, left by their other customers, I would never have ordered from them in the first place.
Learning from my experience, I saw something in a Burgess Catalog that I wanted to order, But I looked up Burgess and found out that they are affiliated with Richard Owens so I will not order from them this year. I lost $79 because of this company.
I hope everyone with a bad experience with this company reports them. They need to be stopped from sending Catalogs with money back guarantees.
On Mar 28, 2013, Richard Owen Nursery / Exciting Gardens responded with:
On Jan 25, 2013, gardengirl1980 Riverside, OH wrote:
Maybe my situation was a fluke, but after looking at other people's similar reports, I don't think it is. Here's what happened: I ordered $134 worth of plants and seeds in early September, 2012 and my credit card was immediately charged on the 11th of September. Two weeks later, I emailed asking for a status as I had heard nothing. They emailed back stating that the orders were about to go out and I should have mine soon.
I still had nothing by 10/18/12 and so emailed again to cancel the order. (these are garden plants and it was starting to frost, so I didn’t want to try and get them in the ground) They told me on 10/23/12 that I couldn’t cancel as the order had gone to the shipping department and was irreversibly scheduled to ship. I said that was fine and would return the package.
When I received the package on 11/7/12, I immediately returned it that day, unopened to the Post Office and refused the package. I emailed the company that very day and told them it was refused and would be coming back. They acknowledged that and said to please allow 2-4 weeks for a refund.
As of 12/30/12, I still had no refund, 8 weeks later. So I emailed again. They told me that they had received the return but there was “no correspondence” in the package (which of course was unopened as it had been refused) to tell them what to do with the return. I replied that there was indeed email correspondence with customer service and that I wanted my refund. On 1/4/13, they replied that they would issue a refund in 1-2 weeks. That never happened.
So, I finally filed a dispute with my credit card company (go Capital One!!) and they got my money back for me. Richard Owens tried to issue only a partial credit of $120 and Capital One had to get the rest of it from them. At least they issued a credit and this is resolved, but what a hassle.
I feel I was more than patient with Richard Owens Nursery, worked with them as much as I could and finally had to solve it by disputing it. I'm filing this report after searching the internet and seeing dozens of other people have had the same problems as me with this company. I don't like seeing this sort of thing going on and feel that by reporting it to the public, the company will perhaps improve whatever problems with their internal systems have created this situation.
Posted on September 4, 2012, updated November 28, 2012
This company needs to be put out of business. Took forever to receive my $80.00 order. Plants were sticks or dried out. Should have sent right back but didn't know if they were dead or just "ill" from the mailing. Nothing happend with the plants, assumed they were dead and mailed back. Rec'd plants in almost the same condition! Even the blueberry plants that had green on them this time are dying. I have complained to the Better Business Bureau. Everyone who has complained should do the same.
On November 28th, 2012, terkoh added the following:
I fought them and I won. I got my money back. Everyone, please complain to the Better Business Bureau and whatever it takes. On Nov 28, 2012, Richard Owen Nursery / Exciting Gardens responded with:
I am not happy with this company. My plants where steamed / cooked from being in those plastic bags. Plus I wonder about the quality of the plants / how they are handled or stored. I was a sucker and thought it was the stress from shipping. Some plants did recover with time and others never did. I sent back my shipping label and a letter that stated my plants had been cooked. Maybe they should rethink their packaging. My peony was half rotten looked old and had no eyes on it. ( This is not shipping stress ) I thought hey they set me back with my growing season way not get a replacement order for my troubles. WRONG, every replacement item was dead. Fleshy plants where cooked again to the point of no return. Bushes where dead and broken and even my one bulb exploded in my hand ( poof dust, mold and bugs ). Shipping stress? I think not. I wasn't about to waste more money, time on shipping the replacement order back. Something is wrong here. Mistakes are made yes but twice? Never again will I do business with them.
On Oct 14, 2012, Richard Owen Nursery / Exciting Gardens responded with:
"On Oct 19, 2012 11:48 AM, Richard Owen Nursery / Exciting Gardens responded with:
A customer care representative has contact this customer for further information. We do have a 1 year replacement guarantee on all of our plants and do hope that the customer takes advantage of this guarantee."
This company absolutely SUCKS! DO NOT BUY PLANTS FROM THEM OR ANY OF THEIR SUBSIDIARIES!
So, I purchased 12 candytuft plants and 24 walk on me plants. The order arrived in timely fashion but what I received shocked me. I've been doing business with Springhill and Michigan Bulb for 3 years now and was not expecting the crap I got. I received a garbage bag basically with 3 candytuft roots in 4 bags, which was fine. They looked rather healthy but dormant. What was disturbing is the walk on me were all just roots bundled 6 in a baggie. There was no separation just a bundle of roots!!! I called the company and I was told to soak them for 24 hours and they should easily separate. They did not. Out of 24 plants I ordered I got 17 viable plants. They were planted in between my flagstones and watered as expected. As of today, only 3 are alive!! I contacted the company and was told that I had to send back my shipping label. That's bull****. I did as was told and requested a reship of candytuft (4 had died) and 17 walk on mes. This time I had to wait almost a month to receive the plants and what did I get? A garbage bag with dead, moldy, rotted plants. I called again and was told to return the order and I could get a credit voucher. I will NEVER pay for another order from this company. I will use the credit voucher for bulbs only and be done with this scam!!
On Jul 13, 2012, Richard Owen Nursery / Exciting Gardens responded with:
A customer care representative has contact this customer for further information. We do have a 1 year replacement guarantee on all of our plants and do hope that the customer takes advantage of this guarantee."
I ordered a number of plants including two dwarf dogwoods. Everything arrived except one dwarf dogwood. I emailed them about the problem and they said I should send the original shipping label to have this corrected. Seriously? They want me to go through all of that for one plant that they made a mistake on? Forget it. That is terrible customer service. Remove me from any mailing lists they have and also from any lists they may sell, trade, or otherwise share in any way. I will never deal with that company again. One plant and they want me to jump through hoops to help them correct THEIR problem. Why should I waste a stamp, envelope and my time to help those incompetent people.
ordered 3 Blue Roses and a gardenia, waited 6 weeks for shipment to arrive. Credit card was billed during phone order. Paid 10.99 for a gardenia which was about 5 inches, a local grocery store had a gardenia that was about 2 feet in height for 4.99. Order was shipped in a green plastic bag which was not labeled "fragile-live plants". Postman was trying to stuff package in mailbox, luckily intercepted him before any damage was done. One of the Blue Roses blossomed and gee, it was RED. Not surprised after reading the reviews here. Was instructed to send label from package and a letter stating my complaint and the matter will be taken care of. I can only Hope.
I placed an order for 3 dwarf trees in late Oct 2012. They took my money on Nov 2. They did finally send 1 of the trees but it didn't grow.
About a month ago I send the packing label and written letterl as they said asking that tree be replaced and that they FINALLY send the other 2. They sent 2 trees, one had not one tiny root on it, it was just a stick and it was broken.
I planted the other tree and we had some wind last week that broke it.
I called today asking that since I still don't have 3 growing trees that my money be refunded. Misti says I would have had to ask for the money back with 14 days.
Sounds crooked to me. I hadn't even gotten a "Hello" from them within 14 days. She says they will ship the 3 trees again. Unless it's too cold. Believe me, it is not TOO COLD in Texas unless they are going to wait until Winter.
I ordered from Exciting Gardens and they cleared my payment in 4 days time. However 2 weeks later I called them to check the status of my order and they told me that it was still processing and that I had another 2 weeks to wait to get my little Cherry Trees. I don't know how anyone can stay in business this way. They sure took my money fast. I have ordered from many garden companies without problems. I am very unhappy about there process and do hope that I actually receive my order. I would not recommend them to anyone and wish that I had seen the reviews on this company before ordering.
I am usually not one that likes to complain about companies. I like to give them the benefit of the doubt, however I am still waiting for my order to arrive. It has been 5 1/2 weeks. I ordered from burgess, and I received my order last week. It was a little late, but not like this nursery. They say that they process your order within 7-14 days. This is not true. They also say that they ship to the warmer climates first. I am in the warm climate. It is now almost 90 degrees, and things have bloomed over 3 - 4 weeks ago for an early spring here. I have called , emailed, etc. Last week, I was told that this order had been processed (finally after 4 weeks of waiting), and this week still no plants. I wish I had looked online here for the reviews before ordering from this company. I too get a busy signal when I call. Hmmm...must be due to the high call volume of complaints. Oh well, live and learn. Never again!
My order came in a plastic bag with little protection for the plants--all bare roots. My Manchurian Apricot was about 12" dried up bare root with no proction around it. It was broken in half. I contacted the company and after about a week they sent me an email that said I needed to send back the original packing slip. I sent it back with a message about the state of my "tree" and asking for a quick replacement. It has been 2 weeks now and I have heard nothing from Richard Owen Nursery.
I believe they fall short in both the packaging area, disclosure that they are sending only bareroots, and mostly, improvement in the customer service area.
I have received many mail order plants most of my adult life with little or no problems. I was horrified when I recieved my $75 order 2 months late with new white growth on the trees, a smashed and turned compost Jack-in-the-pulpit, and a slight smell of mold from the green bag. I just planted everything (Witch all died later) and sent the Jack-in-the-pulpit back with a complaint. I am totally pissed off to announce that the replacement Jack-in-the-pulpit was smashed and on its way to compost. !!@@#$@#%$^& Owens Nursery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My initial order of 21 Green Thuja Giants arrived moldy and dead. I complained immediately and was told they do not give refunds, the only thing I could do was exchange for more plants. I tried a different order, of ground covers and coneflowers, etc. again they all arrived moldy and dead. They wrap each plant in plastic, using a rubber band to hold it on snugly, and then ship them in a large plastic bag with no air venting. Pitiful!
i placed a mail order the middle of march 2011. three weeks later i inquired as to the status of my order. i was told they have no record of my order, but that it takes 2-3 weeks for orders to be processed. i continued to follow-up on the status through apr. and the first part of may. they continued saying there was no record of my order. i put a stop payment on the check and ordered the items online. once again when i contacted them 3 weeks later, they said it takes 2-3 weeks for processing. i finally received my order 6 weeks after placing it. they had short changed me 3 plants. i sent them an email informing them of this error. they indicated my email would be transferred to the dept. responsible for this type of problem and that it would again take 2-3 weeks for processing. i finally received the plants in mid-jun.
i will never again order from this company. apparently, they don't have enough employees to handle the quanity of orders they receive. it obvious they aren't concerned about customer satisfaction.
i issue this warning. BUYERS BEWARE! YOU'LL REGRET ORDERING ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY.
On Jun 9, 2011, hotjobs1121 Saint Petersburg, FL wrote:
To cancel an order is impossible. Once they charged your credit card, like a crocodile they won't let go. Buyer be aware with this marketer (middle man). They have many similar web sites with different names to lure customers. They don't own farms or lands to grow plants. Do research before placing your order.
On May 23, 2011, lopezriverrats Wilmington, IL wrote:
i mailed out an order in early april that was processed on 4/25 even though my credit card was processed before that. it is now 5/23 and i am still waiting for my order. i have called several times and i am told that i can only cancel my order by email...no supervisors have numbers...they don't know when my order will be shipped...they are busy.. i finally emailed my cancellation and they emailed me back saying i had to call....i just called and they told me to email. it was going to be my first order and it is my last. terrible service. terrible company. it is a scam.
I should have known after my dealings wtih Burgess where it took SEVEN replacement Paw Paw trees last year to get two that were alive. They haven't even started to bud by now so they are probably dead and it's too late to get a refund or replacement now.......but I decided to order two Tasmanian Fern Trees on FEBRUARY 8, 2011 because I couldn't find them anywhere else. My daughter is really into dinosaurs and they look like the type of ferns from long ago. After FOUR emails asking where my plants were and getting a runaround each time, I finally received them today, MAY 17, 2011 - over THREE MONTHS after my order. I noticed that the plants actually came from Farmer Seed and Nursery. Here's the kicker. When I opened the package I found two little ferns about as big as the tip of my little finger with notes attached stating that the Tasmanian Ferns were out of stock and to please accept these King Ferns in their place. First of all, they STILL have the Tasmanian Ferns listed on the Exciting Gardens website. http://www.excitinggardens.com/detail.asp?pid=3259
and they do not even sell King ferns. I looked the King fern up on the web and they are NOTHING LIKE TASMANIAN TREE FERNS AT ALL. They are low growing ferns which I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT. I have let them know so much via email. I figure they will try the Burgess bullcrap of forcing me to return the shipping label to get a replacement or refund, but guess what. It won't happen. I will spend the gas to drive there and stick these little ferns where they belong!! DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH BURGESS, EXCITING GARDENS, RICHARD OWEN, OR FARMER SEED.
Posted on May 22, 2010, updated November 9, 2010
I ordered three climbing roses collection before researching the company's ratings. After I found this site, I was worried. But after all, it was just $30. I decided to let it go. Amazingly, after 1.5 months, I received three alive roses in pretty decent condition with good root systems and already leafing. Still, there was some mildew on branches, but I don't think these roses will die once planted. Of course, I cannot trust that the kind of this roses will be exactly what I ordered, time will show, but still, I really lucked out in comparison with other poor deceived people. I will not order from them again though, since this is like gambling, and my luck might change. Shipping time is too long anyway. Oh, and I also got several free bulbs in good condition , small but firm and dry. Nothing was rotting in this shipment. But, I advise to stick with more reliable online nurseries.
On November 9th, 2010, wisereplies changed the rating from positive to negative and added the following:
It's November 9th 2010, and ALL of their roses have perished. No matter how much I fertilized, watered and hovered over them, they never made it. To compare, I planted 30 more rose bushes from other companies, and NONE of them is dead yet and all grew huge except the miserable stock RON sent! Beware of this company, they will send you something so inferior that eventually it will die, even if months/years later! Now I have three empty trellises - the only bare place in my garden thanks to the Owen Nursery.
Posted on October 6, 2010, updated October 13, 2010
I ordered 5 daylilies from this outfit the middle of July. I also ordered from several reputable daylily farms around the same time and received my orders from them within a week or so. First, I sent an email to this company's customer service at the end of August to check the status of the order. There was no reply from them at all. Their phone numbers are not toll free and when I called at my expense I was told I had ordered from a fall catalog and they would begin shipping the end of August.Unfortunately, I also ordered from Direct Gardening as well and received daylilies with rotting roots from them. Six are already dead. I called again at the beginning of September and was told I would receive my order "sometime between now and the end of October."
Keep in mind the order to Direct Gardening was also a fall order and had already arrived. I called again on October 3 and was told the order had shipped on September 30. It is now October 6 and still I have seen no sign of a package.
I guess I've paid 10 bucks to have live plants delivered in the slowest way possible, if indeed they were even shipped at all. What do you think the chances are that the contents are in good health? Save yourself a lot of frustration and check these companies out first before ordering from them. This one will never get my business again.
On October 13th, 2010, JanaJP added the following:
My green plastic bag of rotted and dead plants arrived late this afternoon. (October 13) Of the 5 daylilies ordered, only the 2 most expensive had root systems and might actually live. One was so decayed it had no dimension at all and looked like something you would fish out of your bathroom drain. I have photographed these and will pass them along to the BBB and the state Attorney General of Illinois. I'm choosing not to send them back at my expense because I do not want to deal with this dispicable company again. If it were the last plant nursery left on earth I would not order from them. I cannot understand how they are allowed to remain in business.
Posted on August 2, 2010, updated August 19, 2010
I ordered from this company in April. Heard about the watchdog website after I placed my order, and my heart sank when I saw the volume of negative comments. Sure enough, I had one battle after another with them. They only began sending my plants after I threatened to turn them over to the state Attorney General office. When I finally got all but 2 of the items ordered, they then sent a duplicate (i.e., sent me 2 items that they already sent, about 30% of the value of what was missing). I immediately emailed them of the error, and told them what was missing. Then began the runaround, about sending this label and that label. When I sent the lable of the duplicate package (as they requested), they then requested a label from another package. By that time, we were hitting early July - past the planting season. And, even knowing that I was emailing (therefore, had written documentation), and threatened to turn them over for fraud, they still continued with the runaround. I contacted my credit card company to dispute that amount of the order, and am looking to file a fraud complaint. Also, I think that roughly 50-60% of what I did get from them, has not come up. I know that I recently dug out 2 items that were rotted. One item that didn't come up is a sedum, and in my area, sedum comes up without much effort at all. So, that tells you how bad many of their products are. They definitely are running some kind of scam. I'm thankful that I now have this website to check out these companies, prior to ordering from them. Now, when I get catalogs and see how many bad ratings are out there on a company, the catalog goes into the garbage.
On August 19th, 2010, katococo added the following:
Update. Closer to 70-75% of plants didn't come up (maybe they will next year?). Ordered "orange velvet" climbing rose. Not sure if it will climb, but at least it's growing. Two blooms - light to medium pink. I planted the 2 duplicate plants they sent (label said Purple D'oro daylilies) - both actually grew & bloomed, but neither is a Purple D'oro. They aren't even the same kind of daylily - one is pink/peach w/red & other has thin petals and is red w/yellow center. Still haven't seen anything blooming from the original 2 Purple D'oros they sent, although the plants seem to at least be growing. I've concluded that they count on people not fighting them, especially when you don't spend a lot of money. Of course, that wasn't the case with me - I did see that my credit card company credited me for the items I didn't receive.
Stay far away from these people. My plants were simply thrown in a plastic bag and mailed. The roots were not wrapped in any moisture-retaining material. Two roses, which had begun to leaf out, were dried up and DOA. The horseradish root was miniscule and moldy. I wrote to the company and they refused to do anything unless the original packing was returned, but unfortunately, my husband had thrown it away. No attempt was made to offer any kind of replacement or refund. They kept my money and sent me dead plants. Simple as that.
On May 7, 2010, pingpong2 Tarpon Springs, FL wrote:
On 4/1/2010 I placed an order for over 132.00. My card was charged within a few days. I tried to reach them by phone, but only got a "busy" signal. Then I tried to e-mail them asking when I would be getting my plants. Have not been able to get anyone there to communicate with me. So then I decide to cancel my order since no one will tell me anything about my order.
Today 5/7/2010, I received a bag from them in regular mail. This bag had what appeared to be dead dried up weeds.
I would advise anyone to not place an order with this company. They will take your money immediately and if they do mail you something, it will be dead.
I placed an order with Exciting Gardens on April 17th. By April 21st, they'd charged my credit card for the full amount of the order. However, as of May 5th they cannot give me any estimate for shipping, continue to tell me my order is still processing and are generally quite unhelpful (and borderline rude) when I call to ask for more information. Each time I call they simply say that it takes 2-4 weeks for the order to process....or 7-14 days for the order to process...or 7-14 days for the order to process and 2-4 weeks for the order to deliver....I receive wholly inconsistent timeframes each time I call. I do not believe its consistent with most companies policy (and in fact credit card policies) to charge prior to shipment of items. Certainly, I've never worked with any other nurseries that do business this way. Pretty soon it will be plast optimal planting time for many of the items that I ordered and after reading other negative comments, I see that I should be worried about quality of the products as well. I will not order from this company again.
In Feb 2010 I placed a order for a large assortment of bulbs and plants.According to their order form they process your order in 5-7 days.I waited and in March I received notice that my order was reviewed for shipping and few weeks later still no order.I finally called on the 12th of April .I was told that some of what I ordered was coming directly from Holland and that they were shipping out later than usual this year so I said fine please ship what you have in stock of my order then the remainder can be shipped at a later time .This was in agreement with them.Today I received the items that I guess they had in stock which was 2 3inch pots with stem only no leaves and a little tab that identified them as Purple Dragons I could not believe my eyes.I have sent them a letter demanding all monies returned to my credit card including the shipping charges.These people are thieves and liars and I guess they feel that since it's being shipped 1/2 across the US then who cares well I care and I will fight back
On Apr 20, 2010, Richard Owen Nursery / Exciting Gardens responded with:
"On Oct 4, 2010 12:04 PM, Richard Owen Nursery / Exciting Gardens responded with:
We do care about our customers! Nowhere on our order form or anywhere else, do we state that we process/ship an order in 5-7 days. We do not begin shipping nursery stock until March. We start shipping to the Southern/warmest climates first, and then work our way North. The purple dragon lamiums are grown in our greenhouse and are therefore not shipped until April. The second part of the order did contain some items that were coming from Holland and this package shipped 4/22 and tracing shows delivered 4/29/10. Since that time, the customer has received a refund for her order."
On Oct 2, 2009, yvonnezemotel Brookline, NH wrote:
Back in the beginning of August I ordered bulbs from this company and unlike any other company I have dealt with was charged immediately. I started checking the comments people left and say that there were an overwhelming number of negative comments so in September I called to cancel my order. I was told that it had already been processed but NOT shipped yet and they would stop the shipment. I was also requested to send a written request. I also contacted them by email and was told the same thing. A couple of weeks later the shipment arrived. I contacted Richard Owen immediately to find out what happened and it takes days for them to respond. They told me to ship it back at my cost. I told them that I thought they should pay for the return shipping since they were the onces who'd screwed up. Several emails later and I just got a "we're waiting for the returned package before we issue you a refund...if that's what you still want." I have just told them again that I want a prepaid mailing label. This should take a week to get a response. I will never deal with them again. Buyer beware.
I ordered almost $200 worth of plants. They all came "dormant" I followed instruction and none sprouted out. I sent in the label with a letter asking for replacement. They mailed back, "which plants do you want replaced?" (I had told them all in the letter). I replied, "all of them." They sent almost all of them. I called and they said they (the other plants) would be there in a week. I get a letter from them, (not the plants) with the original order sheet listing all the plants I had purchased. They now said they needed "proof of purchase", which they already had (I sent it the first time). What a scam.... I am tired of dealing with them, I am a year into the fiasco and now I need to go and buy different plants. By the way they are generally rude every time I call (I probably would be too if I had to support these policies on the phone with unhappy customers). I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE ANYONE ELSE EITHER. Should have read reviews prior to ordering
On May 20, 2009, thegladiator Pottstown, PA (Zone 6b) wrote:
On 4/14/09 I ordered 2 Pink pussy willow plants thinking they would arrive shortly after the 1-2 week processing time. So, I called on 4/29 and asked when will they ship? I was told it takes 2-4 weeks. I assumed that is 2-4 weeks to get it from the time I order it, however we all know what happens when you assume. I was told at that time it MAY ship the week of 5/6-5/13. That's 5 weeks by my calendar. I called back on 5/15 and was told they shipped my plants on 5/8 by US Mail. I asked the rep (Janet) on the phone if she thought it was wise to ship perishable items by the slowest way possible. She said it doesn't matter what she thinks and they don't have time to E-mail everyone about their orders. That is what the company does and she has no control over it. That's funny, the other nurseries that I ordered from have time to send e-mails. At least I know she is telling the truth as I too have worked as a customer service rep. At this point I know I will be returning them since it is now 5/19/09 and still no plants and since everyone knows that plants that are left in the dark, without water, light or air, for over a week in a hot processing building/delivery truck, is guaranteed to DIE. I really don't understand how a company that deals with perishable items can have no common sense and the audacity to ONLY use THEE slowest shipping method on the market today. I have ordered from other catalog/mail order nurseries and was shipped my items by UPS or Fed-EX. They also have no tracking method to see where my items are since the postal system doesn't use a tracking system for snail mail. The website claims they have a 1 year guarantee. I guess that is to cover up the fact that they spend most of their companies profit shipping out more plants for all the dead one originally sent by snail mail. I don't recommend using this company. They should do everyone a favor and sell off their product to a real nursery and close their doors for good. IF my pants do show up, I'll respond on their condition at that time.
On May 27th, 2009, thegladiator added the following:
Well, On 5/20/09 I finally got my pussy willows. They were bare root pants and shipped ONLY in a green colored garbage bag. The bag had no marks or labels of any kind stating it was a live plant and therefore perishable. It only had one small line stating the contents were 2 pussy willow. Since they weren't decent sized plants and just bare root twigs, there was nothing stopping the US mail person from folding the bag to get it inside my mailbox thereby breaking the twigs and destroying the product. Granted, my mail person had the sense not to fold the package. I planted them immediately but I'm not sure if they will survive as the damage was done in the long shipping time. This company should be told about UPS and Fed-Ex. the cost would be the same or cheaper for shipping and the customers would get live plants instead of dead or half dead. I am still keeping the rating a negative, and I still won't be doing business with them again.
Recived a catolog from Richard Owen Nursery, don't know how but I read there catolog and ordered two items; on 4-03-09 ,Veggie/Tomato Cage X 4 = $33.99 and 5 Victoria Rhubarb plants @ $2.99, with S & P of $9.99 = $46.97. Recived the veggie/tomato cages and nothing else on 4-29-09, week later wrote a letter asking when my rhubarb plants should arive. Recieved the so called rhubarb plants on 5-13-09, bare root and were in very bad condition, three are a maby and the other two were dead and had been dead long before they were sent. I sent a complant that very day. After reading up on Richard Owen Nursery, I will NOT order again......We will see if they replace the dead rhubarb plants.
I made this order from their Burgess Division with all contact with them BUT the stuff was shipped from the OWEN NURSERY so I'm posting here too.
I ordered 95.00 worth of trees/hedge and vines on 4/10/09. On 4/13/09 they charged my credit card the order amount but I heard nothing from them about anything being shipped.
Keep in mind that mail order and other businesses are not to charge your credit card till the item is ready to ship.
On 4/17/09 I still heard nothing so I e-mailed them asking if my order was shipped either in part or whole and if not why was my credit card charged already for the entire order. 4/19/09 I received a answer from them saying that my order was in there shipping department but nothing said about any ship date or a word about the early charges to my account. Also no name was put on the e-mail from them - Just said "Customer Service"
4/20/09 I did a BBB search on Burgess and there rating was at the bottom and they had a VERY LARGE number of complaints about Billing, Warrantee, Product quality and lack of product delivery.
4/21/09 I sent another e-mail asking about my order status and again stated that my credit card should of not been charged till product is shipped and only for what is shipped.
4/22/09 I received a reply back and again I just got a Bla Bla about 1 to 2 weeks to process the order depending on weather and product availability. So my real answer was when ever or if I get what I ordered will be when they wish and nothing once again about the early charges to my Card.
My response to this was- I called my Credit card Company and voiced my dispute about the problem of being charged on 4/13/09 and no product or service was provided as of 4/22/09 and explained the e-mails and they granted me instant credit canceling the charges to Burgess. After I hung up the phone I got back on line and sent another e-mail back to Burgess telling them that this is my official Order cancellation notice to them and that I disputed there charges on my credit card removing the charged amount. Then I further instructed them that if they send anything to me that I will not accept anything from them at all. I'll see what happens now and then after file a complaint with the BBB as well.
4/23/09 I received a reply e-mail from Burgess about my order cancellation. Burgess mystery customer service said "Your cancellation request has been forwarded to the appropriate department. We will do our best to try to cancel the order before shipping occurs." Well guess what? They shipped the entire order anyway on 4/30/09 that's 7 days after I told them I canceled the order and my Credit card company removed their charge. Well I trucked the Green bag of;
5246 Shade Hybrid Poplar 5$7.97
6753 Tulip Tree 4$4.00
4732 American Arborvitae 12$18.50
6816 Privet Hedge 40$18.49
5252 Rose, Red Robin Hood 2$7.98
7306 Trumpet Vine Hummingbird 2$3.99
6825 Hibiscus 6$3.99
6857 Hydrangea Tree 2$2.01
6749 Red Weigela 1$1.49
6877 Rose of Sharon Hedge 12$7.89
6802 Spicy Sweet Shrub 1$2.99
6875 Lombardy Poplar 12$5.92
Free plants and book was not on the package shipping label so probably was not in the bag. listed below:
Free Gifts as Earned Free
Burgess Seed & Plant Company Handbook of Plant Care1Free
Ground Cherry Tomato1Free
down to the post office and REFUSED DELIVERY which put them on there way back to Owens Nursery (origin address)
FREE of CHARGE and I got a receipt proving so.
When I returned home I sent a E-mail back to Burgess informing them that the package was on its way back to them by USPS as REFUSED and un-opened in the condition received. Their reply was;
"Thank you for that information. You may wish to contact us again once the package has been delivered if a note requesting the refund was not included at the time of return."
Well good thing I used my credit card and was able to contest the charge getting it removed because no way to put a note requesting a refund in a un-opened package and as stated by them If I do not request it they would do nothing at all. Plus with all their no direct answer run around I'm sure that it would take a long time and aggravation.
If they try and charge my card again either in Burgess name or any of their other business names I will post a update.
Also the main reason the credit card company took the charges of instantly was because they posted the charge and still 2 weeks later product was not received or shipped.
05/04/09 package was refused and returned as stated above. They acknowledged notice of returned stuff on 05/05/09. And now they hit my credit card again on 05/06/09
On May 14th, 2009, emptypots added the following:
On 05/11/09 late afternoon the Financial adviser with my credit card company called Burgess because I contested the recharge of the original charges and I was told that they got nowhere with them on this matter so again the charge was reversed again and they were going to contact the Merchants Bank about this matter.On May 31st, 2009, emptypots added the following:
I got a letter from a Susan Phelps from Burgess Customer service which was pre dated on 5/5/09 but had a company postal metered stamp dated 5/8/09 claiming I owe them the money because they say they could not cancel the order and also they did not get the stuff returned so they were going to hit my credit card again in which they did for the second time noted here on this board on the 14th. Again a fowl practice of trying to rip off the consumer after they acknowledged the notice of return of their stuff on 05/05/09 which they had the tracking number to verify that indeed it was refused and on its way back. ( sad that they need to falsely date letters in a effort to scam you)
I sent a reply e-mail to Customer service to; Susan Phelps in regards to her postal letter with facts and the package tracking # 420124439102901000428016273162 of their package they sent after I canceled and in turn REFUSED proving the product was REFUSED and returned to them as I stated I would do.
I received a reply to the e-mail on 05/14/09 and I got "Thank you for your email. Your request has been forwarded to the appropriate department. Thank you, Customer Care Department"
I filed a BBB complaint on them about their billing and other related events. The BBB filed it under Business Name: House of Wesley, Inc. ( must be their parent DBA) and I recommend all who had problems or was ripped off by Burgess or any of their sub company listings file a complaint also. The last section of the complaint form which is very fast to file ask you what you would like them to do. I said I would like them to be investigated for fraudulent practices and either have their business license revoked and or fined as well as action to stop trying to charge my credit card.
I heard or received nothing from Burgess sense the last letter from a Susan Phelps and Burgess as of this date and no further attempt to charge my card.
When I placed my order, they charged my credit card immediately. However, after four weeks, they still have not shipped my order.
They have no published phone number, so it is impossible to communicate with them. Communicating with them by email is very frustrating, because they find various reasons to avoid answering your questions. What a ripoff!
I received dirt in a small pot within a plastic mailing envelope. This is what they called a butterfly bush. They refused to replace until I can prove that I ordered?? Without the shipping label they want my credit card statement. This outfit is not one I want to deal with again. They ship dead plants and then ask you to prove you ordered.
I bought 4 pecan trees and 10 blackberry plants from the store last year. I live 45 minutes north of the store, and I questioned whether they would grow as far north as I live (both the store and I are in north central Illinois. They assured me they would grow up here, so I bought them. Also, I figured that if they were selling them in the store, they must grow in this latitude. Not a one of them survived! Shame on me for not researching further. On the other hand, I won't set foot in that store again.
I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN MY LAVANDER ANGEL TRUMPET :< IT WAS MOLDING,DRY, AND DEAD WHEN I OPENED IT. I WAITED ALMOST 2+ MONTHS FOR A DEAD PLANT, THAT COST MORE THAN I SHOULD EVER HAVE TO PAY FOR A DEAD PLANT. I WILL NOT BE BUYING ANYMORE PLANTS FROM RICHARD OWENS AGAIN....SORRY..
My experience is that they are a sham! I also received many dead and rotted plants. Saved the label, and had them replaced with more dead plants. They did not respond to my returned label for over 2 months. So what did I do? I filed a complaint with the Illinois better business bureau and only then did I get my replacement plants. I waited 2 months to get dead plants. What a scam!!!! NEVER EVER ORDER FROM THEM!!!!!!!! they trick you with low prices, but you dont even get what you pay for. you pay for live plants, not rotted disease ridden failures. Their packaging is awful and they sent my first order in February! What am I to do with plants in new england in February with 9 feet of snow?!?!?!?
The crooks should be arrested. They are listed under Kelly nurseries, exciting gardens, burgess seed, etc.... My order was from Exciting gardens. CONSUMER ADVERTISING FRAUD!! they advertise live plants, and give their customers dead ones! CROOKS! If only I lived in IL, I would tell them how I really feel!
On February 5th, 2009, wibby added the following:
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Customer Complaint History
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BBB processed a total of 471 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total of 471 complaints closed in 36 months, 130 were closed in the last year.
These complaints concerned :
2 regarding Advertising Issues BBB Definition:
Advertising Issues - Claims alleging print or electronic media advertised claims or practices misrepresent the service or product offer.
2 - None of the Above - Advertising Complaint Issue
5 regarding Billing or Collection Issues BBB Definition:
Billing or Collection Issues - Claim alleging billing errors, unauthorized charges, or questionable collection practices.
2 - Failure to correct billing errors
2 - None of the Above - Credit, Billing or Collection Complaint Issue
1 - Unauthorized credit card charges
2 regarding Contract Issues BBB Definition:
Contract Issues - Claim of alleged failure to honor contract or agreement, work performed without authorization, or invalid contract.
1 - Failure to honor a contract or agreement
1 - None of the Above - Contract Complaint Issue
9 regarding Customer Service Issues BBB Definition:
Service Issues - Claims of alleged delay in completing service, failure to provide promised service, inferior quality of provided service, or damaged merchandise as a result of delivery service.
Customer Service Issues - Claims alleging unsatisfactory customer service, including personnel's failure to provide assistance in a timely manner, failure to address or respond to customer dissatisfaction, unavailability for customer support, and/or inappropriate behavior or attitude exhibited by company staff.
4 - Failure to provide promised assistance or support for products or services
2 - Failure to respond to phone calls or written requests for assistance or support
3 - None of the Above - Customer Service Complaint Issue
139 regarding Delivery Issues BBB Definition:
Delivery Issues - Claims alleging delayed delivery of ordered merchandise.
6 - Delivery of unordered products
25 - Late delivery of products
88 - Non-delivery of products
1 - Non-delivery of services
19 - None of the Above - Delivery Complaint Issue
29 regarding Guarantee or Warranty Issues BBB Definition:
Guarantee or Warranty Issues - Claims alleging failure to honor the terms regarding guarantees or warranties.
4 - Disputed warranty coverage and/or terms
4 - Failure to honor money-back guarantees
8 - Failure to honor service under the terms of warranties
3 - Failure to provide promised written warranty or guarantee
10 - None of the Above - Guarantee or Warranty Complaint Issue
226 regarding Product Issues BBB Definition:
Product Issues - Claim alleging a product does not meet the expectations of the complainant, including defective merchandise.
184 - Defective, damaged, or incorrect product received
42 - None of the Above - Product Quality Complaint Issue
57 regarding Refund or Exchange Issues BBB Definition:
Refund or Exchange Issues - Claim of alleged failure to honor company policy or verbal commitment to provide refunds, exchanges, or credit for products or services.
11 - Failure to honor promised refunds, exchanges, or credit
24 - Failure to honor refund, exchange or credit policies
22 - None of the Above - Refund or Exchange Complaint Issue
2 regarding Service Issues BBB Definition:
Service Issues - Claims of alleged delay in completing service, failure to provide promised service, inferior quality of provided service, or damaged merchandise as a result of delivery service.
1 - Failure to honor service estimate or agreement
1 - Improper or inferior service
These complaints were closed as:
309 Resolved BBB Definition:
Resolved - The company resolved the complaint issues.
72 - Company resolved BBB Definition:
resolved - The company resolved the complaint issues.
the complaint issues. The consumer acknowledged acceptance to BBB.
106 - Company addressed the complaint issues. The consumer failed to acknowledge acceptance to BBB.
118 - Company offered a partial (less than 100%) settlement which the consumer failed to acknowledge acceptance to BBB.
13 - Company offered a partial (less than 100%) settlement which the consumer accepted.
155 Administratively Closed BBB Definition:
Administratively Closed - BBB determined that the complaint could not be satisfactorily settled using standard methods of voluntary dispute resolution
77 - BBB determined that despite the company's reasonable effort to address complaint issues, the consumer remained dissatisfied.
51 - BBB determined the company made a reasonable offer to resolve the issues, but the consumer did not accept the offer.
25 - BBB determined the company provided proper verification that indicated there was no obligation to resolve the issues of the complaint.
1 - Company agreed to arbitration BBB Definition:
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in accordance with their BBB agreement, but the consumer declined.
1 - BBB determined that while the company addressed the complaint issues, the complainant was dissatisfied and the matter was outside BBB Rules of Arbitration BBB Definition:
Unresolved - The company failed to resolve the complaint issues.
7 - Company failed to resolve the complaint issues through BBB voluntary and self-regulatory process.
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Richard Owen Nursery has bought Honeycreek Nurseries
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Shopping by Phone or Mail
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Shopping by phone or mail is a convenient alternative to shopping at a store. The Federal Trade Commission's (FTC) Mail or Telephone Order Rule covers merchandise your order by mail, telephone, computer, and fax machine.
Mail or Telephone Order Rule
By law, a company should ship your order within the time stated in its ads. If no time is promised, the company should ship your order within 30 days after receiving it.
If the company is unable to ship within the promised time, they must give you an "option notice." This notice gives you the choice of agreeing to the delay or canceling your order and receiving a prompt refund.
There is one exception to the 30-day Rule: if a company doesn't promise a shipping time, and you are applying for credit to pay for your purchase, the company has 50 days to ship after receiving your order.
Fair Credit Billing Act (FCBA)
You're protected by the FCBA when you use your credit card to pay for purchases.
If you find an error on your credit or charge card statement, you may dispute the charge and withhold payment on the disputed amount while the charge is in dispute. The error might be a charge for the wrong amount, for something you did not accept, or for an item that was not delivered as agreed. Of course, you still must pay any part of the bill that is not in dispute, including finance charges on the undisputed amount.
If you decide to dispute a charge:
Write to the creditor at the address indicated on the monthly statement for "billing inquiries." Include your name, address, credit card number, and a description of the billing error.
Send your letter in a timely fashion. It must reach the creditor within 60 days after the first bill containing the error was mailed to you.
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. The creditor must resolve the dispute within two billing cycles (but not more than 90 days) after receiving your letter.
Unsatisfactory Goods or Services
You also may dispute charges for unsatisfactory goods or services. To take advantage of this protection regarding the quality of goods or services, you must:
have made the purchase in your home state or within 100 miles of your current billing address. The charge must be for more than $50;
make a good faith effort first to resolve the dispute with the seller. However, you are not required to use any special procedure to do so.
Note that the dollar and distance limitations don't apply if the seller also is the card issuer or if a special business relationship exists between the seller and the card issuer.
Before ordering by phone or mail, consider your experience with the company or its general reputation. Determine the company's refund and return policies, the product's availability, and the total cost of your order.
Contacts for Resolving Problems
If you have problems with mail or phone order purchases, try to resolve your dispute with the company. If that doesn't work, the following resources may be helpful:
State and local consumer protection offices. Contact the offices in your home state and where the company is located.
Postal Inspectors. Call your local post office and ask for the Inspector-in-Charge.
Reducing Direct Marketing Solicitations
You may want to have your name removed from direct marketing lists. Be aware, however, that if you purchase goods by phone or mail after your name is removed, it may be added again. You may want to make a new request to have your name removed every few years. You also may want to ask mail or telephone order companies to retain your name on in-house lists only.
The Federal Government has created the National Do Not Call Registry-the free, easy way to reduce the telemarketing calls you get at home. To register, or to get information, visit http://www.donotcall.gov, or call 1-888-382-1222 from the phone you want to register. You will receive fewer telemarketing calls within three months of registering your number. It will stay in the registry for five years or until it is disconnected or you take it off the registry. After five years, you will be able to renew your registration.
The DMA Mail Preference Service lets you opt out of receiving direct mail marketing from many national companies for five years. When you register with this service, your name will be put on a "delete" file and made available to direct-mail marketers. However, your registration will not stop mailings from organizations that are not registered with the DMA's Mail Preference Service. To register with DMA, send your letter to:
Direct Marketing Association
Mail Preference Service
PO Box 643
Carmel, NY 10512
The DMA also has an EMail Preference Service to help you reduce unsolicited commercial emails. To "opt-out" of receiving unsolicited commercial email, use DMA's online form at http://www.dmaconsumers.org/offemaillist.html. Your online request will be effective for one year.
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On Jan 14, 2009, justmeiniowa Algona, IA (Zone 4a) wrote:
DO NOT ORDER FROM THEM!!!! They are nothing but a scam. They take your money and send you dead items. Sure they sent me replacements after I complained for months, because they never got the shipping lable. So I had to copy the bank statement to prove I ordered from them. I have had nothing but trouble with this company. Then when they did send a replacement they too were almost dead. Better yet they came at the end of October. Sure living in Iowa I am to plant new plants outside and they are to live, ya right. Just beware alot of these companies are all the same company just different names..I could go on and on about them but hopefully you will understand to be carefull of them.....
DO NOT BUY FROM THIS COMPANY OR AFFILIATES! THEY HAVE SOLD ME NOTHING BUT JUNK THAT ARRIVES HALF DEAD & MOLDY, DRIED OUT WITH BUGS, OR DIES SOON AFTER. THE WORST REFUND / REPLACEMENT POLICY! THE WORST COMPANIES I HAVE EVER DEALT WITH! BUY FROM REPUTABLE COMPANYS : Gurneys, Springhill, Parkseed, WaysideGardens...ETC...