On May 20, 2012, Scooty Peterborough United States wrote:
Posted on May 17, 2012, updated May 20, 2012
I just received 5 different roses and 1 gift rose. Two roses was fine and of decent size, albeit still small for the price they charge. The third rose had one of the two main stems broken.The fourth rose was 7 inches tall, so below par for me. The gift rose was 6 inches tall.
I e-mailed the company but have not received an answer yet. Will update this comment next week with the final results.
At this moment I would not order from them again based on the very small size of half of the shipment.
On May 20th, 2012, Scooty changed the rating from neutral to negative and added the following:
I just received an email from the owner Janet. She suggested trimming the broken cane to the first bud below. This will leave me with a rose with 1 cane of about 5-6 inches and one of 8 inches.
The reason two of the roses are so small was the cold spring they had in Oregon. Paying over $100,- for 4 bands inclusive shipping is not worth the price in this case.
Website stated "$2 off gallons". I ordered 2 - 1 gal roses, online 2/17/10. The website did not allow for the $2 reduction. I telephoned before completing my order and was told that their online system does not allow for the $2 reduction, but that upon receiving my order, they would manually make the 2 x $2 ($4) adjustment.
The adjustment never came. I emailed them 3/3/10 regarding my $4 adjustment. I did not receive a response. I will not follow-up another time. Will not order from them again.
My first (and will be only) order was placed October 2007. 2 roses (5 gal Baroness Rothschild and a band Joyce Barden)Yes, I paid the extra for the 5 gal and it didn't look the best when it arrived. In all honesty I must say it survived the winter and is now looking completely healthy. The band did not survive and I e-mailed them with a question about their guarantee. Since they did not want to hear my comments, of course I received no response to my e-mail. There are too many other reputable rose vendors to bother dealing with them again.
On Mar 22, 2008, Rogue Valley Roses responded with:
On Mar 22, 2008 3:27 PM, Rogue Valley Roses added:
On Thursday, November 1, 2007, at 7:28 a.m. Rogue Valley Roses received the following email from this customer:
I received my order Wednesday---2 roses Baroness Rothschild (5 gal)
and Joyce Barden (band). The band arrived just perfect and looks
great but the Baroness has nothing but yellow leaves. The plant is
large and well-branched, etc but should I be concerned about the
On Thursday, November 1, 2007 at 11:18 a.m. Rogue Valley Roses replied to this customer:
Your rose is fine. It is not diseased or damaged. Cool, wet weather came early this year to our area. The leaves on deciduous roses change color before dropping, just like the trees. The leaves turn yellow before falling off for the winter. You will notice a tiny, tight dormant leaf bud where each leaf was attached. Many of our roses now have completely bare canes. This is normal as our roses are grown outdoors after being propagated in greenhouses. I believe your area is USDA Zone 8, as is ours. Normally, dormancy would not come this early, but it sure did this year! Your rose is acting normally and is a healthy and strong plant. If your weather is still warm, the Baroness may start leafing out again. Not to worry. We have had that happen here when we have had early cold followed by a warm dry December and January with lots of sunshine. In very warm winters here, our roses act like they do in Zone 9, and some top growth is evident. Sometimes new canes even shoot up on the Hybrid Teas. These canes are usually lost in our typical wham bam March weather, but again, we go out and cut these canes below the blackened freeze area and the roses, being the briars that they are, come through just fine. Zone 7 and 8 winters vary a lot!
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have other questions.
Janet Inada, owner
We have had no further contact from this customer in regard to her order. However, we can determine, from her negative review and from her November email, that she received two healthy roses in November. Our website clearly states on the Shipping and Ordering Page under our Guarantees heading that we cannot guarantee our roses for winter survival. The fact that the healthy band that she received died over the winter hardly seems grounds for the negative review we have received here; this is coupled with the fact that we have not received any further communication from this customer since her email in November.
We fully recognize that our business rests on the satisfaction of our customers and are committed to the resolution of customer concerns at all times. Our business also rests on the goodwill of our customers and their willingness to pursue resolution of their concerns with us.
Janet Inada, owner, Rogue Valley Roses
Postscript: I decided to telephone this customer after writing the above rebuttal. The customer claims that she emailed us in March, asking about our guarantees. We have no record anywhere of having received her email. Despite the fact that she received two healthy roses from us and acknowledges that our guarantees are clearly stated on our website, including a statement that "we do not guarantee winter survival", she is, apparently, unwilling to alter her negative comment and questions our truthfulness in saying that we did not receive a March email. All in all, I wonder if some folks will stop to think about the responsibility and seriousness involved in trashing a nursery without first making sure that the nursery is not going to respond to their concerns.
I have done business with this company a few times, ordering both bands and gallons. The first time, the bands were tiny sticks. 4 bands in particular were barely rooted cuttings, not even filling out the band pot with roots. When the cutting was removed from the band, the roots were about 2 inches long and there were 5 roots on one, 4 roots on the other and not many more on the rest of them. I carefully repotted them in a better pot and put them in my greenhouse to grow. The following year, I potted them up to 1 gal. pots and grew them out some more. I had also ordered some 1 gal. roses. None of them had their roots filled out in their pots either and had looked like they were recently planted from bands. I did call the company and left a message with a woman. I explained to her what I wrote above and gave her my telephone number. She said she would have the owner call. I work but have an answering machine and a caller I.D., I never heard from them. Based on the ratings, I thought it may have been a mistake of what I had received so I called back again and explained again and the guy I spoke with on the phone said some grow slow and the description I gave sounded right. Even the 3 inch roots on the gal.'s I asked ? And he said yes.
The following year I called to ask what the roots were like on their roses that year because I had a few more I wanted to aquire that no one else carried and I did not want to recieve anymore barely rooted sticks. I was told that they filled the pots out and were of good size so I got off the phone, got an order together and called it in. A few months later I recieved my order and was really excited. When I opened the boxes and unwrapped each rose, I carefully removed each one from the pot to look at the roots, I became sick to my stomach thinking about how much money I had spent on these under-developed sick looking things and thought not AGAIN... Only 1 gal. rose had looked wonderful. The others were the same size as the bands and had the same size roots as the bands which weren't much better from the year before. I was lied to or they ran short and didn't want to lose out any money so they threw bands in 1 gal. pots and shipped them. The bands were a little better rooted this time, but like I said, not much better. By this time I had had enough, and said never again!
This year, I was on their website looking at pictues of roses that another rose vendor I am ordering from, did not have pictures of. While on Rogues website, I noticed they are now selling some of their bands for 15.00 Their 1 gal.'s sell for 14.50 and their bands 12.50 and now they are charging on some of their bands, which are not hard-to-find-roses, more than their 1 gal.'s.... Now that's unbelieveable and a great way to rip us off even more!! Must be how they make up for the specials they have. The 2 that I remember off the top of my head are Jerri Jennings and Jeanie LaJoie. Jeanie LaJoie is available in a 31/2 inch pot at Noreast-mini-roses.com for 7.95. Gee, you can get 2 for about the price of 1 and the shipping is a little over 11.00 for up to 6 roses, priority! They also have alot of other mini climbers.
I am really disappointed in Rogues. Here's something else, they charge 8.00 extra for their 5 gal.s for the extra time it takes. They don't even say since they keep the pot, they will be nice enough and deduct the price of the pot, since by keeping it, it saves them money from buying more. They say it saves in the cost of shipping to remove it, I know because I asked details over the phone about their 5 gal.'s but decided it was way over the top on the price. The pots don't weigh but a few ounces.
They also claim that their 1 gal. potted roses weigh a little over 7 lbs. each, at least that's the way the website calculates the shipping cost's. On my second order I recieved, I re-wrapped everything and I took the boxes up to the post office for specific weights and also took the 1 gal.'s potted roses out for them to weigh seperately, along with the wrapping and they weighed out at 2.2 lbs., 2.5 lbs.,2.5 lbs., 2.5 lbs. and 3.5 lbs and a few weights right below 3.5 lbs. Now I would say that they are really cleaning up as far as the shipping goes. All in all, the lady at the post office said they are over-charging by 2 to 3 times or more. They also DO NOT INSURE what they ship.
I also found out recently that my friend was going to put in an order with them for over 400.00 based on their ratings here so I told her of my experience and she decided to go somewhere else.
Seriously folks, why pay these outragious prices when so many other vendors are honest.
I am sure they will not appreciate this negative rating but, people have a right to know, especially since they are price gouging on some of their bands... More than the cost of their 1gallons. I wonder if they did the price hikes to see if they could get away selling them at that price and if it works out, raise all the prices on all the pot sizes. I learned my lesson and want nothing further to do with them.