I placed an order from Value Seeds ONCE and it was a waste of money - not a great deal of money, true, but considering that only two packets grew out of 13 ordered, and one of them didn't amount to a hill of beans, I was not pleased! I wasted a whole growing season. It won't happen again. There's no value in seeds that don't germinate!
On Jan 14, 2008, bears15 Platte Center, NE (Zone 5b) wrote:
I placed 2 large orders with valueseeds last year.
I am a master gardener-have my own green house-I know what I'm doing. The germination from these seeds were horrible-I learned my lesson-not to order again & I didnt. The concern I have is I place many orders with T&M I just hope they dont fall into the valueseed mode.
On May 14, 2007, rebecca101 Madison, WI (Zone 5a) wrote:
I was very unhappy with the germination of the seeds from this company. I believe they sell old seeds. Here's why:
I ordered various seeds from them, including sweet peas and chives. Some of the seeds have had fair to decent germination (50-70%), although still lower than seed from other companies. But the sweet peas and chives have had extremely poor germination (0-5%). (For comparison, sweet pea seeds I sowed at the same time and in the same place from two other companies germinated at 80% or higher.) Sweet pea and chive seeds, of course, are well-known for not storing well. VS seeds come in small foil packets with no date on them whatsoever. Their packaging is identical to the inside foil packets from the Thompson & Morgan company, and the varieties offered are from T&M as well. As far as I can tell, T&M uses "Value Seeds" to sell its old merchandise from previous years, which it can no longer sell as T&M because it is not fresh.
If I had known that this company was selling year (or more??) old seed, I would not have purchased them. It is no value to pay money for seeds which do not germinate.
Of course, some types of seed do store relatively well, although germination rates always decline. However, I think it is simply unconscionable for a company to sell old seeds without letting the consumer know. They should either advertise what they are doing clearly on their website, or at a minimum they should not sell seed for poor keepers like sweet peas, the onion family, and parsnips. In any case, the packing date should *always* be marked on the seeds. All other seed companies I'm familiar with indicate the packed for date on the packet, and usually a germination rate from their trials as well. (Aren't there federal minimum germination rates that companies have to comply with?)
In sum: buyer beware - don't expect fresh seed or good germination from VS seeds.
Only tried Value Seeds because of what I read on here. So far it's been very good. I got several packages of seeds within a week, placed another order just this week. Of the first seed batch, the ones needing to be started early have germinated very well, some maybe 100%. I doubt if you can find anyplace with these low prices and dirt cheap shipping. I'm happy!
On January 15th, 2008, chunx changed the rating from positive to negative and added the following:
How things have changed since my original rating. On my 2007 order, many of the seeds did not germinate, the shipping time was slow, but worse yet was that 3 of the different packets of seeds were not what they were advertised to be or labeled. The double petunias were just plain old regular mixed petunias, the coreopsis sunrise was dark red instead of bright orange, and the cascading petunias were just a plain single upright red. When I brought this to their attention and informed them they should change the description, I heard nothing. Guess what? Still the same description and so it's now even a year older seed.