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Positive alisarin
(2 reviews)
On Aug 29, 2014, alisarin Malone, NY (Zone 4b) wrote:

I order two "Little Spire" Russian Sage plants in 4" pots on August 13 for $7.99 each plus shipping. They shipped out August 14, and I received them on the 16th. Both plants looked very nice upon receipt, healthy and full. They arrived packed together in a box that was roomy enough for both, and the dirt was taped over to keep it in the pots. I planted them in the ground two days later and they are doing super, have been flowering and filling out noticeably. Very good experience, thanks Hirt's!

Positive Connanicut
(4 reviews)
On Aug 5, 2014, Connanicut Jamestown, RI wrote:

I have ordered from Hirt's a couple of times, mainly for really hard to find shrubs. My experiences have been positive. They ship quickly and the plants I have received have be very much alive. In some cases, their plants were in better condition than those from some of the "big name" mail order nurseries. Their prices are VERY reasonable. I just ordered two Calycanthus 'Venus" and they were on sale for less than $10. The next best price I found was $39. So they don't ship replacements, at these low prices I would be happy for a refund if it arrived dead.

Positive elfeik
(28 reviews)
On Jul 25, 2014, elfeik Near Kansas City, MO (Zone 6a) wrote:

A month back I ordered a Buddleia x 'Miss Molly' Butterfly Bush - Sangria Red -Proven Winners- 4" pot through Amazon and so far it's been great. It looks exactly like the one shown on the site. Two branches have grown with 6 flower clusters, I pinched out two, for better growth.

Positive Lovehum
(6 reviews)
On May 27, 2014, Lovehum (Zone 7b) wrote:

Not bad. They have a wide selection and they ship pretty fast so no complaints here. They even have some informative videos on youtube.

Positive Lalani
(2 reviews)
On May 12, 2014, Lalani South Padre island, TX (Zone 9a) wrote:

I ordered 2 stevia plants from Hirt's several months ago. One of the plants arrived with the top half broken off. I planted it in the ground anyway. I planted the unbroken one in a larger pot. The one that was broken is doing better than the unbroken one! As they say, "prune to encourage growth." Anyway, don't fret if your stevia plant arrives broken. Be patient with it, and you may be pleasantly surprised.

Positive leroylee13
(1 review)
On May 4, 2014, leroylee13 Boyette, FL wrote:

I made my first order from Hirt's a couple weeks ago. It included 9 carnivorous plants which are very delicate. My order was shipped quickly and received in good condition. One of 2 sundews immediately declined while the second quickly recovered from the shipping trauma. I contacted Hirt's via email and received an email within hours, stating that they would credit my charge card for the plant, and I could re-order if I wanted. I soon received a confirmation email stating that not only the price of the item, but also shipping charges were being refunded.

Outstanding customer service.. I will certainly be placing more orders with this company very soon.

Positive Sherilou
(21 reviews)
On May 4, 2014, Sherilou Panhandle Gulf Coast, FL (Zone 8b) wrote:

Posted on March 12, 2014, updated May 4, 2014
My gorgeous, healthy pepper seedlings were beautifully packed and sent via USPS Priority Mail with a heat pack! The dahlia tubers I ordered are huge, too! I love it all.

They were super-quick to process my order... fastest I've ever experienced. I'm so happy that I'm going to their online catalog, again, tonight to see if there's anything else I might want. Thank you so much, Hirt's Gardens!


On May 4th, 2014, Sherilou added the following:

It's now May and all the pepper plants I ordered are big and healthy and productive. I will order from Hirt's Gardens again, for sure, next year.

I followed their "hardening-off" directions to the letter... this is a very important step, when purchasing any plants online.
Positive gvm11
(3 reviews)
On Apr 26, 2014, gvm11 GAMBRILLS, MD wrote:

Posted on April 25, 2014, updated April 26, 2014
In the past I really loved this company as no other until recently. I have ordered some plants in October for fall planting. They were dormant as usually is the case. Now it is spring time and they show no signs of life in my garden. I contacted Hirt's and they refused to send me a replacement as it is past their warranty. Very disappointing.


On April 26th, 2014, gvm11 changed the rating from negative to positive and added the following:

Update: Refund issued, problem resolved.
Positive Bec_No_Va
(38 reviews)
On Apr 22, 2014, Bec_No_Va Huntsville, AL (Zone 7b) wrote:

I ordered from eBay & had no issues, plant arrived very quickly & exactly as listed...

Positive sunimrette
(4 reviews)
On Apr 9, 2014, sunimrette Zebulon, NC (Zone 7b) wrote:

Usually I check here for reviews before trying a new online seller, but I was in a hurry and only ordering a few seeds off of amazon so I didn't bother. The seeds arrived much faster than I expected and were packaged well with (generic) planting instructions. I searched the internet for more specific instructions, followed them, and the seeds sprouted quite nicely!

A week later I was looking to buy some grafted tomatoes, but the big name sellers were already out of stock for shipping to my zone in all the varieties I was interested in. A search on ebay led me back to Hirt's Gardens, and I figured, they were relatively cheap so I wouldn't be out too much money if it didn't turn out well.

Once again, shipping was faster than I expected. Now, have I seen better packaging jobs? Yes, but from places like Parkseed where I paid well for it. Considering the price, I think Hirts did a great job. The plants were healthy transplant-size (not scrawny seedlings) and came with instructions on how to harden them off. They are still in the process of hardening off, so I don't know how well they will do once in the garden, but so far I'm pleased.

Positive coco3
(6 reviews)
On Feb 9, 2014, coco3 Vanleer, TN wrote:

Posted on February 7, 2014, updated February 9, 2014
I am confused by the negative comments regarding communication. I placed my first order with them and had a few questions regarding winter plant care and shipping. These questions were answered promptly and thoroughly over the course of several emails.


On February 9th, 2014, coco3 added the following:

I received my first order.well package strong healthy plants.i was unable to get to post office so they sat for several days.they were shipped as dormant but had already started leafing out in box.will definitely order again.
Positive paully37
(1 review)
On Jul 6, 2013, paully37 Ann Arbor, MI wrote:

I ordered 3 hardy kiwi plants & 2 pawpaws from hirts gardens last month. The plants were shipped in pots (a plus because most everything else I have ordered from other companies was shipped bare root.) The plants arrived quickly and healthy and are still doing great!! They did ship them in packing peanuts which I find to not be ideal. But they arrived healthy and quickly & I guess that is what is most important. I am pleased with hirts gardens and would order again!

Positive iowhen
(7 reviews)
On Jun 27, 2013, iowhen Iowa City, IA (Zone 5a) wrote:

Just received 7 plants, delivery was prompt. Not the most secure packaging I have ever seen, but in this case it sufficed. The plants look robust and no parts were broken. The day the order shipped, I received a credit for two plants I had ordered but were not available.

Positive min_bee
(2 reviews)
On Jun 24, 2013, min_bee Nyack, NY wrote:

Have ordered twice in 2013, with excellent results each time.

Positive jedoody
(23 reviews)
On Jun 15, 2013, jedoody Las Vegas, NV wrote:

I purchased a Michelia Alba,on Amazon,from 9GreenBox who I believe is a part of Hirt's Garden. The plant arrived in 6 days in really great condition. Loaded with branches and leaves. I would purchase from this vendor again.

Positive mboutet
(12 reviews)
On May 7, 2013, mboutet Rochester, NY wrote:

I've ordered many times from Hirt's over the years and have never had a bad experience, either with plants or seeds. The variation in reviews is puzzling.

Positive SLuangkhot
(3 reviews)
On Apr 29, 2013, SLuangkhot Alexandria, VA wrote:

Very quick shipping, and my plants came in great condition. I only ordered a pineapple plant and a plumeria for my sunroom, but both are already doing well.

Glad I didn't read all the negative reviews first--they would have scared me away! I don't mind the packing peanuts; I'm actually recycling them by giving them to a friend who is moving. If you have your doubts, place a small order and try them out!

Positive bestoutdoors
(1 review)
On Apr 25, 2013, bestoutdoors Nashville, TN wrote:

I ordered 1 female and 1 male of Ken's Hardy Kiwi. The small leafed-out plants arrived promptly and in good condition.

Positive bibbykitty
(36 reviews)
On Mar 22, 2013, bibbykitty San Antonio, TX (Zone 8b) wrote:

I was looking for two buddleia bushes. I wanted a Bicolor and a Blueberry Cobbler. Hirts was the only place I could find that ships and had both. I was hesitant to order based on their spotty feedback. I did however and I am very pleased with the plants I received.

I would not hesitate to recommend this company to my family and friends. Shipping was quick,plants are nice sized and healthy. What more could anyone ask for?

Positive poppetmochi
(3 reviews)
On Mar 21, 2013, poppetmochi Mukilteo, WA (Zone 8a) wrote:

Excellent-Excellent-Excellent. I ordered a plant for my Aunt's birthday and it arrived in pristine condition. I have ordered several times myself and I live quite a distance from Hirt's...They were packaged very well and were extremely healthy plants! I will be ordering again from them.

Positive JudyF
(8 reviews)
On Feb 6, 2013, JudyF Waukegan, IL wrote:

I ordered a few of their sale items, and received them quickly. The plants arrived in great shape, with a heat pack to protect them in shipping. Hirt's has many interesting seeds and plants, and I will definitely order from them again soon.

Positive Toni05
(61 reviews)
On Dec 6, 2012, Toni05 Brookfield, IL wrote:

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Beautiful variegated Mother of thousand..vibrant colors and large in size. Shipping was super fast, and plant well-packaged. Considering this is the first time I've seen the variegated version, I consider it hard-to-find..Even though it's rare, the price was exceptional..Thanks, Hirt's...Toni


On October 3rd, 2007, Toni05 added the following:

Received my second order from Hirts today..A cute, and very healthy, Calico Heart. Leaves are in pefect condition, insect-free.
Shipping was done with care, and arrived faster than I expected.

On November 23rd, 2007, Toni05 added the following:

Received two beautiful episcias today from Hirts: Spearment Flame and Chocolate Cream..Each arrived in 4" pots; they're a lot larger than I expected for their prices.
Plants arrived a lot faster than I thought, especially since it's a holiday week. (Thanksgiving)
I also like the fact Hirts enclosed pots and Episcias in plastic since they dote on humidity.
On March 11th, 2009, Toni05 added the following:

Received a Lace Leaf Aralia Tree today. Plant arrived in perfect condition. Stands 19" tall. Shipping was prompt, and plant well-packaged.

I didn't think to leave feedback for seeds ordered in January 2009.
Once again, shipping was quick, seeds labeled, and everything in order. No missing packs, no complications. Toni


On April 21st, 2009, Toni05 added the following:

Ordered a 'rare' Yellow Christmas Cactus. I received a very healthy specimen, quite full, in a 4" pot.
Plant was well-packaged, and arrived quickly.
Hirts has interesting varieties. Toni
On November 15th, 2010, Toni05 added the following:

Received six gorgeous plants from Hirts.
All are healthy, well-rooted, and pest-free.

I was shocked how fast the order arrived. 3 days after ordering.

Plants were well-wrapped and securely packaged. Toni

On March 12th, 2011, Toni05 added the following:

Received three, gorgeous, good-sized, healthy plants.
Kalanchoe, White Panda
Orchid, Variegated Phal
Ficus, Variegated Benji

Plants were securely wrapped, warm enough to protect from midwest, icy temps. Shipping arrived promptly.
On October 1st, 2011, Toni05 added the following:

Received 3 plants, 'Maid of Orleans,' 'Blue Rabbit's Foot Fern,' 'Chlorophytum 'ocean,' and Lady Bugs.

Like previous orders, plants are very healthy and pest free. The Spider is a little fussy, but alive and well.

Ladybugs are very active. 1500 ladybugs at a great price. Less than 10 didn't make the trip, but considering the amount, the odds are fantastic.

Plants and ladybugs were securely wrapped. shipment arrived days after initial order.

Hirt's is one of my favorite nurseries. Toni
On November 16th, 2011, Toni05 added the following:

Received a very pretty, Ixora, Flame of the Woods, variegata. Never saw the Flame w/variegated leaves.

Also ordered Lady bugs. Lady Bugs were raring to go..I prefer natural/organic insecticides.

Secure and Fast shipping.
On January 21st, 2012, Toni05 added the following:

Received three healthy, good-sized, pest-free plants.

Philodendron Lemon-Lime, vine
Philodendron Lemon-Like 'upright'
Medinilla, 'orange spike'

Plants are potted in 4" containers. Well-rooted.

Hirt's is a 5* Nursery...Toni




On May 2nd, 2012, Toni05 added the following:

March 8, 2012 received three new plants from Hirts.
Ficus, 'Bamboo Leaf,' Ficus 'Weeping Tree' and Maranta 'Lime.'

Ficus are 8-10", well-rooted and packed w/foliage.
Maranta has beautiful colors, and well-rooted.

Definately a 'Positive' nursery.

Plants were wrapped w/care. Shipping super-fast.

This week, I placed another order w/Hirts. Can't wait for their arrival. Toni
On May 2nd, 2012, Toni05 added the following:

March 8, 2012 received three new plants from Hirts.
Ficus, 'Bamboo Leaf,' Ficus 'Weeping Tree' and Maranta 'Lime.'

Ficus are 8-10", well-rooted and packed w/foliage.
Maranta has beautiful colors, and well-rooted.

Definately a 'Positive' nursery.

Plants were wrapped w/care. Shipping super-fast.

This week, I placed another order w/Hirts. Can't wait for their arrival. Toni
On May 2nd, 2012, Toni05 added the following:

March 8, 2012 received three new plants from Hirts.
Ficus, 'Bamboo Leaf,' Ficus 'Weeping Tree' and Maranta 'Lime.'

Ficus are 8-10", well-rooted and packed w/foliage.
Maranta has beautiful colors, and well-rooted.

Definately a 'Positive' nursery.

Plants were wrapped w/care. Shipping super-fast.

This week, I placed another order w/Hirts. Can't wait for their arrival. Toni
On May 24th, 2012, Toni05 added the following:

Received order, 5/9/12.

Variegated Harlequin Honeysuckle. Highly variegated, well-rooted. 4" pot.Hardy to z5.

Aiko Chirita...Beautiful, healthy foliage..Several buds and flowers. 6" hanging basket. Price 7.99. Very inexpensive for Chirita and size.

Ming Aralia, pre-bonsai tree. Trunk 8", w/leaves a little over 12". Healthy green leaves. 4" pot. Ready to be repotted.

Securely-wrapped, super-fast shipping, arrived 3 days after order.

Hirts is a 5* Nursery.... Toni




On June 21st, 2012, Toni05 added the following:

Ordered and received:

Azalea Weston 'Innocent,' a hardy, decidious outdoor plant.

Kiwi--Hardy, Artic Beauty Kolomikta Kiwi.
One male, one female.

Plants are good-size, (4" pots, compact and tall,) healthy and pest-free.
Male Kiwi foliage is gorgeous. Red and green.
Female has some red.

Lady Bugs. The little gals and guys are so, very active. I placed half out front, the other half in the back yard.

Attached to the net lady bugs are packaged, was a Cooling Pack. A great idea and gesture.

Plants and bugs arrived securely packed. Shipping arrived less than a week from order.

Great Customer Service. Pleasant and helpful. Replies to emails within 24-hours.

Thanks, Hirt's..Toni






On December 6th, 2012, Toni05 added the following:

Ordered and received Sanseviera 'Whitney'

Sans is much larger than I expected. Beautiful marking.

Plant was securely wrapped, survived cold via shipping.

Sans arrived two days after initial order. Can't beat that!

Positive mizou55
(5 reviews)
On Oct 17, 2012, mizou55 St Louis, MO wrote:

I ordered two Mt Laurels. They arrived in short order and are doing well nearly 6 months later. Mizzou55

Positive BonnieGardens
(2 reviews)
On Aug 29, 2012, BonnieGardens Clermont, FL (Zone 9a) wrote:

Prompt shipping. Plastic peanuts kept vine from breaking.
Size of Hawaii sunset vine surprised me. Not one leaf broken off.
I would definitely buy from them again.
Bonnie Davis
Clermont, Fl.

Positive lilpocky
(3 reviews)
On Jul 6, 2012, lilpocky Greencastle, PA wrote:

I've done business with Hirt's twice now. When I received the packages in the mail, I was amazed by their packaging method. It really protected my plants. Everything was in great condition. My first order from over a year ago, a Jasmine plant, is growing beautifully.

I also bought other shrubs from them this year. They are small, but they were in beautiful condition. The rose, in fact, is doing great in the hot, humid conditions of mid-summer.

A+

Positive Origin374
(1 review)
On Jun 30, 2012, Origin374 Pigeon Creek, OH wrote:

I don't order plants online. It's too risky and I have no control over what I get. I much prefer shopping in person and browsing the store myself. That said, I have nothing but good things to say about Hirt's. I'm a bit of a fig fool and no one in the area has anything close to the number and varieties of figs that Hirt's does. This alone makes them a favorite of mine. They have all of the usual plants for sale but additionally they have the most unusual selections. We found today a number of fruits and landscape plants no one else in the area carries. It's a bit small compared to a few other local places, but it's a great shop to wander and browse in. I found something of interest in every greenhouse I entered.

Their prices on some things, like flats of veggies, are quite a bit higher than other nurseries. Their herbs are also pricey. On the other hand, if you're looking for some vegetables now for a late planting you're not going to find anything like the selection they have at Hirt's. I was dumbstruck at how many tomatoes and how many varieties, for example, they have yet and in good shape, too; while every other joint in the area is out of stock or has nothing but yellowed and bedraggled plants left. As for everything else, their prices seemed to me to be pretty much in line with most other local nurseries. I probably won't start my spring vegetable garden with plants from Hirt's--I can get better prices closer to home. But for everything else, for surprising options and for veggies for a later planting season, you bet, this will be my place.

Everyone I've met there, and I mean everyone without exception, has been friendly, helpful, informative. If you live in the area and walk into the joint without a chip on your shoulder, engage them in a friendly conversation you just might get your questions answered, you'll probably find someone who will take you right to the plants you're looking for, and you just might enjoy your visit. I have, so far.

I have nothing but good to say about the most unusual garden center in the area with the most surprising selection of plants. It's a good place.

Positive henryetta69
(1 review)
On Jun 11, 2012, henryetta69 Wichita, KS wrote:

My first order from Hirt's Gardens was a very satisfactory experience. My plants arrived in good condition and very promptly. A little soil in the bottom of the box, but after seeing the way packages are handled by UPS and USPS I wasn't surprised. They are in the ground and seem to be very happy here.

Positive CeliaHiggs
(3 reviews)
On Jun 11, 2012, CeliaHiggs Colorado Springs, CO wrote:

I placed a rather varied order (three live plants, assorted seeds, and small (but heavy) planters). Everything was well wrapped and, in spite of the fact that they spent more time in the mail than would've been ideal due to Memorial Day weekend, everything arrived in good condition! I was actually surprised at how well the live plants fared considering how long they'd been in transit.

There was a slight mix up with the seeds so I called the customer service number and they assured me they would send me what I needed. I just received everything today and am very pleased.

Positive hollysmamma
(2 reviews)
On May 26, 2012, hollysmamma Cuyahoga Heights, OH (Zone 5a) wrote:

Ordered two Dragon Fruit plants from them awhile ago, they are growing like a weed and still extremely healthy! Will order from them again!

Positive basehill
(1 review)
On May 3, 2012, basehill Indianola, IA wrote:

I ordered 48 Jalapeno Lite Pepper Plants this year.
Order was placed using their Amazon Site.
Plants arrived in 6 days.
Plants were very healthy and well packaged.
I planted them 3 days ago and all are looking healthy and growing fast.
Ordered my Tomato and Sweet Pepper Plants from them Yesterday.

Positive mdigginu
(1 review)
On May 2, 2012, mdigginu Webster, SD wrote:

I ordered the butterfly bush 'miss molly' from Hirt's over the weekend. I was a bit surprised to see the plant at my door in 3 days. I actually didn't expect to see the plant till much later in the week. It was obvious the plant was packaged rather carefully---soil was covered so as not to spill out, and "paper bag" material covered whole plant and box was filled with styrofoam filler. I watered the plant as soon as i released it from the box and the plant perked right up. All in all, a very positive experience. By the way, first time i have ordered a plant by mail.

Positive amos11
(2 reviews)
On Apr 26, 2012, amos11 Fort Bragg, NC wrote:

I placed an order Monday night April 23, 2012. Recieved email that order was shipped Tuesday April 24, 2012. I said that was tooooo quick, must be a scam...oooooh no. I should have researched before ordering. Well to my SURPRISE!!!! My plants arrived Thursday April 26, 2012. Packed well. Only issue ,... the leaves on the lily of the valley were broken. I will contact Hirts for replacement, and post the response. Because of the QUICK transaction, I'm hoping for a positive response. I was really impressed with the packing, plants(minus the lily of the valley) and absolutley timely shipping. Total of six plants,,,keeping fingers crossed that all live a long and happy life with me. This was the second online nursery that I have ordered from, and based on this transaction I would order again.

Positive ajhammer42
(4 reviews)
On Apr 5, 2012, ajhammer42 Oakville, MO wrote:

I have to admit that I ordered from Hirt's before reading up on the company. Immediately after ordering I came here and wasn't feeling very good about my purchase because of all the bad reviews.

Luckily my order arrived within 48 hours so my worries were cut short! All of my plants arrived in beautiful condition- the best of any mail order plants I have ever purchased. They were larger than expected! I would expect to pay double for plants this size. Great selection of items, too! I originally went there for bunny tail grass seed and ended up purchasing many other items.

I will definitely be ordering from them again.

Positive subtropic
(5 reviews)
On Apr 3, 2012, subtropic Deland, FL wrote:

Posted on April 3, 2012, updated April 3, 2012
I have placed one order with them. Shipping was very reasonably priced and fast. I had a problem with my order that Matt immediately rectified. So two thumbs up for willingness to make sure the customer was satisfied.


On April 3rd, 2012, subtropic added the following:

Plants were packed very well.
Positive ArizonaBorn
(6 reviews)
On Apr 1, 2012, ArizonaBorn Dalton, GA wrote:

I absolutely love Hirt's Gardens. I have had no problems with any of the plants or seeds I have purchased from them. They are prompt with shipping and plants are securely packaged and shipped as perishables.

I will continue to order from Hirt's and highly recommend them to other gardeners.

Positive tombaak
(14 reviews)
On Mar 28, 2012, tombaak High Desert, NV (Zone 5a) wrote:

I just received 3 hardy hibiscus plants (and a packet of seeds) from this company. The plants were well packed and larger caliper than I had anticipated.

All 3 also have a nice compact head of healthy deep green leaves! Nothing remotely small or sickly about the bunch :)

Overall I am very happy with the new additions to my garden!

Positive Kiwi_Man
(2 reviews)
On Mar 27, 2012, Kiwi_Man Thomson, GA (Zone 8a) wrote:

Feb 22, 2012 ordered Hirt's 2 Hardy Kiwi Plants - Actinidia - Ken's Red Female and Male on Amazon They were promptly shipped and I received them on March 1, 2012. The male was in excellent shape, the female has sickly looking leaves. Planted them and the male continued to prosper, the female didn't survive. I notified Hirt's of the problem, they requested pictures. They promptly notified me they were shipping a replacement plant and sent a tracking number. The second Ken's Red kiwi plant arrived with yellowish leaves that promptly fell off. I repotted it and placed it in a unheated greenhouse and it is doing well. I recommend them because hardy kiwi plants are very expensive and both the female and male plants with shipping were $26.37; also the Ken's Red kiwi is not a high vigor plant from all my reading on it.

Positive turektaylor
(2 reviews)
On Feb 27, 2012, turektaylor Elizabeth City, NC (Zone 8a) wrote:

i took a chance too and was PLEASANTLY surprised. so much so, that i bought from them a 2nd time. ALL the plants were well
packed, healthy and quickly shipped. kudos to the new owners. hope they keep it up!

Positive rosebeau
(5 reviews)
On Feb 21, 2012, rosebeau North Fort Myers, FL (Zone 10a) wrote:

I love ordering from this vendor. Such a variety of plants are available and prices are reasonable. And the shipping is unbelievably fast.

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