Just got this tree, no name on it. Will send another pic.
SOLVED: ID for a little tree-PLEASE
It closes up when it gets hot but not so much when touched ,not that I noticed anyway. IT came in a pot where I bought some burgandy Festival grass. I bought that particular pot because it also had the little tree coming up volunteer. It's a very light grey in color, not green. The stalk is larger around than a mimosa tree or my poinciana trees.
This message was edited Jun 18, 2009 4:49 PM
Can you tell me what the link is to see what that is, please? I don't know how to find things.
Is there any way to know how old before they bloom, to see the color? Is there any web site that tells that info? Thank you Dave.
Give it a large pot with rich well drained soil, and it will develop into a flowering bush (with pruning). It needs to be in full sun to flower well. In winter it will need to be indoors in a sunny window. In your area they will flower from spring till fall.
I guess that if you take care of it well, it may flower next spring.
OH WOW!!! Thank you for the info. I'll take good care of it. Have a greenhouse for the winter. Thanks again. Mekos
Hi Mekos, the last pic that you posted is not going to help much. Why do you think your plant is not a Mexican bird of paradise plant?
Edit: because we were typing at the same time.....you second to the last photo.
Did you not inquire about the Mexican bird of paradise plant a good while back "looking for one"? I may be confusing you with someone else though.
This message was edited Jun 18, 2009 9:51 PM
Well,I was just looking through the trees pictures and the tree stalk is thicker on this little tree than the others. I have the mexican BOP in red pink and yellow and a royal poinciana tree and several mimosa trees and none have a fat stalk like this tree. And I have all different sizes of trees. I grew them from seeds and some sent me a couple. But the stem or stalk is thinner on the ones I aready had. Actually I was just looking up some seeds and found this one. It just looks so much like my little tree. Google desmanthus Illinoesis-Prairie mimosa and look at the stem and leaves. Here is another of this little tree.
Hi Mekos, for some reason or another that Desmanthus does not look quite right for your plant.
Rachel, Yes I got a couple mexican BOP trees and they look different. The first picture I posted shows a fat stalk. The BOPs I got are thinner stalks. And I have grown some from seeds and they have thinner stalks. This whole tree looks just a bit different. It's green but a tad more grey or bluish/green or just different. The leaves close up at times, I'm not sure if heat or movement or what but it just seems different to me.
I'll close this for now and watch the little tree and when it's older try to post another picture. We'll just wait and see what it turns out to be. I'd rather it be a BOP, but will keep what ever it is.
Mekos, the only other thing I can say is be patient and wait for a bloom;-) That will definitly tell you what this plant is.
You do not have to close this, just keep it up-dated if you would like.
You can't ID a seedling by the thickness of the stalk, you need to look at the leaf shape, arrangement, etc. If you look closely at the Desmanthus pictures, you will see that it has leaves that are more finely divided than yours--each of the individual leaflets on your plant would be further divided into smaller leaflets if it were Desmanthus. Take a look at this pic of Desmanthus and you'll see what I mean http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/157032/ I think some sort of Caesalpinia is a good possibility, you'll know for sure once it blooms.
It is difficult to ID an unknown seedling. Many legumes look very similar when young.
Be sure to post photos of your plant when it matures.
hi mekos it sure is a cute tree, make sure to tell me what you have found lol
Sorry flower, thats not it, I have those around here. This is a fast growing tree. The stalk is bigger than my thumb now. And a foot tall. It was tiny a week ago. The other little trees of BOP, that was about the same size a week ago (except for the stems being different sizes) were about the same size. This one shadows them now. They barely grew and this one is huge.
In the ground it does get 4'. But maybe one of the sensitve varieties if he gets taller.
I just purchased it(the pudica) from Well Sweep Herb farm for my son's kindergarten teacher and Logee's sells it.
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I wish you hadn't already got one, I could have saved you the money. They grow all over the place around here and blooming too. But the stem is different. Look closely. The stem on mine is thick and blue, the stem on your post picture is tiny and red. Look at how long the leaves have gotten from last week. the first picture and the NOW picture. The leaf is almost 12 inches long.
And this winter it aint gonna fit in any window sill. (Not even now). This one has me intrigued.
I'm starting to wonder if it's maybe a Sesbania of some sort? I can't remember if their leaves close up or not but there's some resemblance, and they definitely grow quickly. Hard to say which one though until it flowers, they all look similar at this stage. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=sesbania&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&searcher%5Bgrex%5D=&search_prefs%5Bblank_cultivar%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search
I believe the plant one of these Sesbania herbacea,
or Sesbania vesicaria
I am sure it is not Desmanthus illinoiensis, the leaflets of desmanthus are a lot smaller.
When the plant flowers, an identification will not have to be guess-worked.
JUST an UP_DATE on the little tree. It's as tall as I am now. 5 foot and a few inches more.
The rate of growth really suggests Sesbania to me--they can grow quite quickly.