This weed stands 8 to 10 feet tall before the blooms start arching downward.
SOLVED: Tall, elegant weed and fragrant too! ID please?
I'm sorry ~ that is a fragrance I am not familiar with. Does it look like a member of that family?
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I just am thinking that it could be an Artemisia but I have no experience with Texas plants.
I will have to check into that suggestion ~ thanks for the direction.
i've seen that plant here but not up close. can't wait for an id!
Have you caught the fragrance of it? It drifted on the breeze when I was walking and it took a bit to isolate which plant. Very interesting plant.
Maybe a species of Asparagus?
Can you see how many petals each flower has? The pic isn't sharp enough to see. Also a pic of any leaves on the main stems would be useful.
I need to go look closer. I don't believe it has any foliage on the lower part of this plant. The blooms are so delicate I will certainly try for a better photo or two. Limited by a vintage camera in vintage hands... lol
i know that it's not the "dog fennel" that is so very common here, but i think there is more than one Fennel with that common name.
i have not smelled it. i see it in the distance when we're driving, never up close.
Possibly Dog Fennel
Not an umbellifer - wrong flowerhead structure.
It could be Poverty Weed, Baccharis neglecta or one of its relatives.
I tried five to six websites and they didn't metion fragrance at all for Baccharis neglecta - does they have fragrance?
I can find no reference on Baccharis fragrance either. OTOH, looking at the different Baccharis... I would take a stab that is close to an ID.
The only thing I'd question, the Baccharis descriptions indicate a tree... this appears to be a clump of weeds. This patch was on the edge of the woods by the pond. There is more growing on the edge of the driveway and the photo below is an immature plant on the dam side of the pond.
The fog and humidty was too heavy this a.m. so my photos didn't turn out. Will try again in the morning.
Look like Eupatorium capillifolium to me - they also like wetlands - hard to believe they're in the same genus as joe pye weed!
If everyone agrees it is the Eupatorium capillifolium aka dog fennel, I will mark this thread closed.
I have been searching for information on the fragrance of these blooms and find no reference to dog fennel.
I hope someone will weigh in on the sniff test too.
I have this ....oh my God.. EVERYPLACE....but yes it smells like spicy, sweet citrus with a hit of cinnamon....taller then me..
no Idea on the name....I'll look into Alabama weeds.
Bless you for noticig the fragrance. It is delightful, not overpowering at all. Excellent description!
Now I wonder what this plant might be good for...
That is pretty and it mentions fragrant too but that is not the same as this one. These blooms are not as defined. I have the blue mistflower growing wild by this same pond and it is in bloom right now.
There is lots of it around where I live too, zone 8 north FL. It is especially beautiful in places it doesn't get cut down every year, especially if it's near water. It gets so tall and graceful. You are right, a beautiful and elegant plant. I have often wondered why folks cut this down or pull it out and then go to to the store and buy some other plant, for the place where they had something beautiful in the first place.
Yes, very scented when it's blossoms are open like right now. I could smell it several feet away on the breeze this afternoon. A nice scent, sweet natural pleasant. Kind of reminded me of the scent of sunflowers but not so intense. I think I read somewhere a long time ago that it is/was used as an ornamental in Japan.
Here's a link I found that shows a nice close up of the flowers-
Thank you for confirming this delightful fragrance. I truly appreciate this "weed" for its' beauty. I agree on removing a plant this carefree to replace it with another plant would be, in my mind, foolish. For most of the season it is rather nondescript but the blooms and the gracefulness make up for it. The fragrance is icing on the cake.
That was a good link you provided with an excellent selection of photos. Far better than I would be capable of taking.
As a sidenote, I found this is on the toxicity and growth habit of this plant.
Dogfennel spreads by both seeds and rootstocks and can grow quite aggressively. It is common in pastures, especially those which are unimproved or overgrazed, and degrades the quality of the pasture by competing with desired forage species. Dogfennel contains liver-damaging pyrrolizidine alkaloids, so livestock are known to eat all the turf around a stand of it. To remove infestations of dogfennel, the recommended course of action is to mow it and apply herbicides.
thanks much, pod
Podster, I can't remember the name of the Butterfly larva that feeds on dog fennel, The black swallowtail I think. I have a couple stands of it in the yard...that is a picture above of one of them. It provides food, a rich earthy-sweet fragrance, is attractive and easy to control. Works for me....grin Moon
and it looks way better than the weeds in my back yard!
Tiger Moth Estigmene acrea larvae frequently feed on Dog Fennel (Eupatorium capillifolium)
Cosmosoma myrodora - Scarlet-Bodied Wasp Moth
Adult males extract toxic chemicals from Dogfennel Eupatorium (Eupatorium capillifolium)
I could only find one online reference to this - possible confusion with Fennel Foeniculum vulgare which is different family - Umbelliferae
compare to Eupatorium capilifolium which is Asteraceae. It's a pain having to look up online for the right family name!
Resin probably only looked at the common name Dog Fennel, not the Latin Name so he's forgiven.
The black swallowtails in my yard feed on it, but probably because I do not provide the F vulgare for their dining pleasure.
But I also have tons of milkweed (asclepsis) so they probably don't care.....grin
Almost perfect... for those with this issue, it is even deer resistant!
If one can get past the immature stage this is a beautiful graceful plant. Perhaps if one chose to cultivate it, the young plant might be pretty when blended with a taller coneflower or daisy bloomer. Any other suggestions?
I forgot to says butterflies are attracted to its flowers. Maybe asters would works with it! Especially the tall purple flowers kinds.
I haven't noticed butterflies around these plants but then I'm not home during the daytime much. I have noticed them around the lantana so I know there are plenty here.
Tall purple asters might be quite lovely with the brilliant green foliage. Do they bloom early in the summer? Odd how the foliage color fades when this plant starts blooming.
my asters bloom well now, hhhmmm, how tall is it at the 'ugly immature' stage?
Well, right now some is at that stage 2-4 feet tall but the rest is 8 feet tall or more and in bloom. I'll be honest, I haven't really noticed this plant before now so am not sure but believe the time I would want flowers blooming would be May ~ June ~ July. I shall have to pay closer attention next summer.
well my marigolds get to be about 2 to 3 feet tall and they bloom during that time. some of my roses don't get much bigger than that, poppies maybe..lets see suggugestions would be cause I am assuming you don't want to keep replanting every year
Miniature shrub rose
Reseeding or Perennial Poppies
Annuals would be
Marigolds (if you choose this option don't buy seeds I have tons of them)
Bidens mexican sun gold
does any of this help?
You bet! All great suggestions. I will have to do some research and see what will like the same conditions. Thanks... pod