A Magnifient Specimen!

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

Folks, I know nothing about tropical plants. But I wanted to post this one as it surely looks spectacular to me. I thought it was a Plumeria, and posted it there, but those nice folks sent me here.

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Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

Another shot.

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Deltona, FL(Zone 9b)

That is very neat and definitely unique!!!

Austin, TX(Zone 8b)

Beautiful..........and it does look like a Plumeria! Except for the roots!

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

I really don't know anything about tropicals. I went to this greenhouse to buy a yellow Clivia. But this plant just blew me away. It is over 5' tall and more than 2' of that is the roots.. How old do you think it is?

Milton, FL(Zone 8a)

Beautiful and unique.I would guess that it was grown from a cutting.Age would also be a guess.I would say between 6 and 10 years old.

Hammond, LA(Zone 8b)

That is gorgeous!!

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

I'm going back there next weekend. I'll have to ask the owner about it. Someone on the Plumeria forum wanted to know if it was for sale and the price. I didn't even look. I'm afraid to ask. I might just have to take it home, and I'm sure that wouldn't be good for it's health. LOL Loved to death!

Dandridge, TN(Zone 6a)

Looks like a Desert rose to me. Look at the flowers.

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

Yes, That's what the folks on the Plumeria Forum said. I've have never seen a Desert Rose.

Dandridge, TN(Zone 6a)

I grew them years ago but always killed them during the winter. I have one now but I'm trying to ignore it so I don't kill it too. Everyone else on this forum seems to be successful growers- there are lots of postings on them.

That is one awesome specimen. I'm sure they don't have it for sale but imagine how old it is, or how much it is worth, wowow wow~

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

Lakeside, I'm sure you're right. The man who owns this place is a loveable eccentric. There was a behemouth begonia there that I wanted a small one of. He had none potted. He broke off two large starts and gave them to me.There are some plants in there not to be believed. I didn't know what this was, just that it was magnificent.

Here's that giant begonia. It's about 3' tall and 4 to 5' across.

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Dandridge, TN(Zone 6a)

I love places like that. Unfortunately they are few and far between!

Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

I grow both plumeria and adenium.
I do that to my plumies ;)

Spectacular shot!
and enviable plant!

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

Malestrom, You can take a ride and go here and see it and other incredible plants.

http://davesgarden.com/products/go/view/20873/

Dandridge, TN(Zone 6a)

Too far for me! I'd like to see a sticky with greenhouses or nurseries that sell this sort of thing- especially away from the west coast.

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

Well, I went back and asked about the Adenum. It is 15 years old. It's not for sale as there is sentimental value attached to it. Plus, I didn't notice it, but if you look at the photo, the dish is wider than the door. They were able to tilt it sideways to bring it in when it was empty, but not now.

Shaping it was a project done over a period of years by the owner's nephew. He kept raising it with a come along a few inches every few weeks. It was his pet project.

Christiansted, VI(Zone 11)

I'm still amazed. And not surprised at the age or not for sale.

I'd still like to know how they got the roots to go 'tube-ular' instead of tubby.

Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

Wow all these years and I never knew it was so close to me.
I can be there in 30 to 45 minutes.
I feel a trip coming on hehe.

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

Malestrom, Wait until after Christmas. I was there yesterday and they've taken a lot of their really neat stuff into the back to make room for all of the Poinsettas, Christmas Cactus and such.

I have no idea what a lot of this stuff is. The owner kept popping in to see me, but I could only ask about things that were in front of me at those times. So much of it isn't labeled.

Molamola, It must have had something to do with the raising of it out of the soil.

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(Clint) Medina, TN(Zone 7b)

So...should we try raising our plants out of the soil like this? It is an interesting effect. It would probably help prevent rotting as well.

Christiansted, VI(Zone 11)

Anytime I repot, and I'm a beginner, I bring a DR out of tthe soil by about 1/4 of the roots.

Wilfred, are you reading this? Is this right?

Oh, and I have an exacto knife that I carefully cut off the little roots with. I know, I said they were interesting in a post a while back, but now I think I like the big lump caudex to be smooth.

I'm wondering if this plant, the one at the top, was started from a cutting that was placed in a flat tray with only an inch of potting soil, to make a lot of fat roots that could be trained like this? Yes, lifting often, and training the roots, trimming little stray roots.

Can you tell that I'm impressed, and have been thinking about this plant? Thank you, Stormyla, for showing this to us!

Copenhagen, Denmark(Zone 7b)

The Adenium is probably grown from a rooting cutting or have been trained by pruning the roots. I do that myself - training Adeniums by leaf, stem and root pruning. It is straightforward and easy to get nice "bonsai-like results" even from trained seedlings.

Regards,

Martin

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

I took a photo of this smaller one that was growing there. Don't know if this gives any clues about the big one. This one was definitely for sale.

It's not normal to grow them in such shallow dishes, is it?

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Christiansted, VI(Zone 11)

That one looks a bit top heavy to me. The dish is for Bonsai.

Greensburg, IN(Zone 6a)

I have seen them in shallow dishes but they were wired to stop them from tiping over, the man told me that is the way to show off the roots.

Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

Adenium are grown for several reasons
1- flower
2 caudex
3 graft stock

to achieve a nice caudex growing in bowl shaped pots is the way to go.
Deep pots encourage 'carrot' like roots and a tube shaped body.
Using a bowl forces the roots to twist and turn before they thicken and when u raise them you can shape them by braiding or twisting.

Christiansted, VI(Zone 11)

I have two seedlings in flat things, one a lid off a pie, I can see the roots through the clear plastic, and the other in a plastic tray from some hamburger, it had two roots, so I put a little stick between them, to make them go in different directions. These haven't had much time to grow much...

That's interesting, carrot roots. I've always wanted to plant carrots in gravel, to see the funny roots. Is a carrot an annual Caudiciform? hahahahaha!

Norristown, PA(Zone 6b)

I had no idea that this took such effort. I thought it just grew that way.
I'm glad that I posted the photo where it is appreciated.

Christiansted, VI(Zone 11)

Thank you SO much for the photo. And yes, that plant could probably sell for thousands of dollars, if they had a DR auction.

New Bern, NC(Zone 8a)

After reading this I decided I had a perfect plant to try this with. I learned alot from this thread. Thank you to everyone here. It was in a deeper pot and I planted it a bit to deep. So I repotted into a shallow wider pot cleaning off alot of the pearlite soil mix and arranged them carefully around the cauldex and set them in the soil mix. I watered with B1 and returned it to its sunny window. Do you think it will eventually look as beautifull as that one?

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New Bern, NC(Zone 8a)

Here is another pic from different angle. oops same pic

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New Bern, NC(Zone 8a)

The other angle.

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New Bern, NC(Zone 8a)

Close up.

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Christiansted, VI(Zone 11)

Hey, froggie! The plant is something like fifteen years old.

Your plant is looking hopeful. Something worries me, the leaves look brown on the edges, which is a sign of fertilizer burn.

Water when dry, but with plain water. Perhaps after an hour, water again with liquid fertilizer in the water.

Good luck! I want one like that big one, too!

Melissa

New Bern, NC(Zone 8a)

Tips were sunburned. Daughter waterd in full sun and the tips got wet.:(
I dont fertilize in winter im waiting for temps to rise first then I will fertilize with 9-59-9 and epsom salt.

Christiansted, VI(Zone 11)

Longggg read, but well worth the effort!

http://cubits.org/containergardeningwith/thread/view/1095/

9-59-9 not good.

Dandridge, TN(Zone 6a)

I think I read somewhere that you should keep the caudex shaded for a while after raising it, which makes sense, if you were underground for many years, would you want to be sitting in the sun?

Christiansted, VI(Zone 11)

Absolutely. Plants get sunburned, and can die.

New Bern, NC(Zone 8a)

I need to move it to a partial shade window til mid spring? This is a project that I need all input I can get. Its been in a window that gets full sun till 1pm then part sun til 3.

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