Help ID this tree in longleaf pine forest central AL

Central, AL(Zone 8a)

Most of the trees were changing color but not these--leaves were thick and leathery green.

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Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Possibly Gordonia lasianthus?


Central, AL(Zone 8a)

There are similarities--but USDA map show Gordonia only in coastal counties (this was in Tallapoosa county--East Central AL) and it is very abundant, and I didn't see any sign of flowering or fruiting structures. I have grown up spending weekends hiking that forest and have seen the tree pictured all of my life but in adulthood am trying to learn the names. Aside from the longleaf pine, companion plants are brackin fern, lots of sourwood, staghorn sumac, Persimmon, Sassafras, and Wax myrtle.

suburban K.C., MO(Zone 6a)

My uneducated guess would be Pawpaw (Asimina triloba). I know you said no fruit but even around here the fruit is removed quickly by animals or something.
You sometimes see it as an understory tree here. -

Beautiful, BC(Zone 8b)

That bud is very unique. I think it is the key to the ID. You may also want to look at Cyrilla racemiflora.
For your county:
Ilex opaca
Kalmia latifolia
Magnolia virginiana
Melia azedarach
Pinus echinata
Pinus palustris
Pinus taeda
Pinus virginiana
Vaccinium arboreum

I like going to the USDA plant database and doing a county search.

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Noi no shortleaf, sorry Not Pawpaw.

Central, AL(Zone 8a)

Not Cyrilla. Definitely not Pawpaw. I sent an email to someone at Auburn U. who maintains a website of AL plants--will see if they answer. Thanks for the input--if I get an answer I'll post it here.

Charlotte, NC(Zone 8a)

Ya'll be needin' a Southerna fo ya tree there.

Tha's a Devilwood tree.

Cartrema americana

Scott County, KY(Zone 5b)

If Cartrema americana is a synonym for Osmanthus americanus (American Devilwood), then I think that may not be right.

The plant in question appears to have alternate arrangement of foliage, while Osmanthus americanus has opposite arrangement of foliage.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 8b)

veins in the leaves aren't paired even for sweetbay magnolia, and the bud shoots out more like another leaf section forming, than for the magnolia-

Magnolia, TX(Zone 8b)

Resin's Loblolly Bay is close, but the leaves are smaller than what pink is holding. It does smack of an evergreen like a magnolia or a bay...

Brunswick, GA

Looks like a Horse Sugar (aka Sweetleaf, aka Symplocos tinctoria) to me.

I'd say taste it to be sure, but some plants are sweeter than others and if you don't know the taste it might not strike you.. Strange plant. Only semi-evergreen, but it is still fall so no surprise the leaves still look green.

Beautiful, BC(Zone 8b)

I think you may have it, bryan3. The buds look right.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 8b)

That looks the closest- says the leaves are a yellow green tho- hers look darker, but thats abt the only diff I see. yup, chuckl, TASTE

Beautiful, BC(Zone 8b)

a bit more info on Symplocos tinctoria

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Magnolia, TX(Zone 8b)

Her leaf ends are more rounded too- than pointy

Central, AL(Zone 8a)
It has characteristics of Symplocos...I wish I had brought a branch home so I could taste the leaves! These photos from Duke show a different bud arangement for that tree...maybe its just the time of year? And the leaves look glossier.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 8b)

I saw Dukes versions- the bark is ridged on theirs too- that the tree is an evergreen or semi evergreen is a surety, it could be that it is a tree that 'crosses ' with others and is therefore common there. I want to know where that Devilwood naming came from- and yeah I know they change Latin names like diapers, but, where did he get his info from?

Prairieville, LA(Zone 9a)

I ran across this list...100 trees

Magnolia, TX(Zone 8b)

my wifi wont handle the dwnloads- pics are sketches- thanx tho

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