I ordered lupinus propinquaas seed enticed by the lovely picture of a violet lupine on thier website; but after a year of work and anticipation I ended up with a Gigantic Tree lupine with dull white flowers, that attracted every aphid for 100 miles! it was a totally different plant that I expected. I think there is an Issue of trust when you buy seed; that it will come true after all your work. more over, thier prices are the most expensive I've seen anywhere online for a pinch of seed. do yourself a favor and check out Theodore payne, before making your purchase of California native seed.