Associated with Koi Garden Club! I sent my money, no refund, no plants. They say they don't have the plants and don't have my money. They might not have the plants but they sure got my money. Stalled me so I missed the deadline to compalain to Paypal. Sounds like they know exactly what they are doing. Only time I've been scammed on the internet. This is fraud. Only spend what you are willing to lose with these two!